Election result - disaster for working class people

EXACTLY Varian! Who said that? Totally the conclusion I came to this morning. We have no democracy anymore.

Who said it?

Which is why we get what one eminent Conservative politician once termed "elective dictatorship" and why we need to reform our voting system to proportional representation.

But that 56.4% couldn't agree amongst themselves where to put their votes in order to keep the Conservatives out! Had they all colluded to put the X in the same place on the ballot paper, the result would have been different. But they didn't. And it's not.

Most voters were opposed to the Conservatives.

Conservative – 43.6%
Labour – 32.2%
Liberal Democrats – 11.5%
Scottish National Party – 3.9%

Not much margin for doubt there.

56.4% of voters voted against the Conservative party.

Most folk who turned out to vote voted against the Conservative party

Eh?

Most folk who turned out to vote voted against the Conservative party.

Landslide? What % of votes did they get???

QuaintIrene said she is from a Northern family. So she was not being patronising. Why the protest when it was a landslide ? Do we really believe that Jeremy would have given us WASPI women an astronomic amount of compensation. No, he would have realised it was unrealistic. It was right to make our retirement date the same as men. It was just a shame that at 40 something I wasn’t ever planning for my retirement so big blame is on me too. I only considered it about two years ago at 57.

Me too Chewbacca - I’d have had around £27000 from Labour but fîrstly I didn’t trust them to deliver and secondly, at what cost?

London Remainers are on a protest march over the result of the GE right now.

Jeez.

Me too Chebacca!

It would have been in my own personal best interests to have voted for Corbyn because he had "promised" to recompense us WASPI women although he didn't explain where he'd get the money from. So whilst I, personally, stood to benefit to the tune of £31,000 from Labour leading the country; I decided against voting for him just for my own personal gains. So, how do you feel about that grannyrebel? Does that make me a better or worse person?

I would never ever vote for a Marxist so far left he is off the map or for a lying toad who can't be trusted. For once I voted for somebody else.

With luck, BJ will be reminded he has a manifesto. I am sure he will not be able to fulfil everything but a stab at the NHS and social care with a decent amount of money would be a start.

Really ? QuaintIrene

I agree with you Lavenderzen And once again the northern accent is equated with a lack of intelligence.

Yes I was being ironic.

PS. Democracy isn't the simple concept people would like to think it is either.

'working class oop north'

I think it was meant ironically and not as an insult (but could be wrong).

I don't think anybody who earns below the mean income and/or relies on public services has the "right result", but we all need to listen to why those who will lose out over the next few years voted the way they did.

I don't think the reason is a simple one and the solution certainly isn't.

lavenderzen I was not patronising anyone.
I do not, knowingly make horrible statements.

'working class oop north'

What a horrible patronising statement, I didn't see that.

I was brought up in a working class, strong Labour voting family. My dad would despair as what has happened to the Labour Party, which has been destroyed by JC and his idiotic ideas, and his wavering from one thing to another with absolutely no regard for democracy.

We have the right result today.

I agree with you Witzend. Everybody who wants a better society, wherever they live, needs to start really listening to and understanding the fears of people who have almost certainly voted against their own interests.

Let Johnson hoist himself with his own petard! He must be held to account by a credible opposition.

"Hope is being able to see there is light despite all of the darkness."

Desmond Tutu

libra10 I didn’t mean to sound patronising at all. I am from a Northern working class family who supported Labour all their lives.
A fail on my behalf for trying to point out that we aren’t all thick despite our accents.
JC was so out of touch with the electorate he thought would support him just because he was Labour.
He would have ruined our country.
Yes, I think so.

Define 'working class'.
Had Corbyn won who would have paid for his ridiculous plans? Not the non-working class nor the seriously wealthy who can afford avoidance lawyers, it would have been the working class, ie those who work and pay their taxes every week/month.
It's about time that we stopped using terminology like 'working class' from the thirties.

"Maybe the working class oop north who have chucked their Labour MPs did it to halt Jeremy Corbyn.
Not necessarily because they have suddenly become born again Tories."

As one of the 'working class oop north', so patronisingly stated by QuaintIrene, although living in a safe Conservative seat, I certainly did not vote Conservative merely to thwart J C.

Although I disliked his policies immensely and his spend, spend, spend ideology, I voted to hopefully see a more successful UK. J C would have ruined the country.