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Election result - disaster for working class people

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grannyrebel7 Fri 13-Dec-19 09:39:22

Well I hope all you people who voted for someone who consistently lies (even lied to the Queen) didn't have the strength of character to appear on hardly any of the TV debates and has the morals of an alley cat, are well and truly satisfied now! God help us all.

Septimia Fri 13-Dec-19 09:44:10

I don't particularly like him.

But then he's marginally better than Corbyn who I find to be a slimy character. I don't know how supposedly intelligent people could be taken in by him. And his morals aren't much better, are they?

merlotgran Fri 13-Dec-19 09:48:10

A disaster for working class people? Even the ones who voted Conservative which was their democratic right?

Oh, hang on. I get it. They were too thick to know what they were doing. hmm

QuaintIrene Fri 13-Dec-19 09:58:39

Maybe the working class oop north who have chucked their Labour MPs did it to halt Jeremy Corbyn.
Not necessarily because they have suddenly become born again Tories.

Urmstongran Fri 13-Dec-19 10:25:47

Maybe we didn’t know what we were voting for?
Perhaps we ought to have a another GE!

Opal Fri 13-Dec-19 10:29:15

And if that doesn't give them the result they want Ug, we'll do the best of three! grin

lavenderzen Fri 13-Dec-19 10:29:17

BJ - Whether you love him or hate him, he was advised well, did what was needed to be done and has a landslide victory! You cannot get away from that.

Witzend Fri 13-Dec-19 10:40:33

It was Jeremy Corbyn/Momentum who lost it for Labour.

Ultimately this result will be good for Labour - if they ditch the would-be Marxist element and return to the centre left with a credible, electable leader.

But I see that many of them are blaming it all on Brexit. And look at JC's stance on that - his backside firmly glued to the fence all along, presumably not because he didn't truly know his own mind, but because he wasn't sure which stance would win more Labour votes.

He has always reminded me of the student activists who stood outside the student union building every lunchtime when I was a student in the late 60s, handing out Marxist Society leaflets and trying to flog The Socialist Worker.

Annecan Fri 13-Dec-19 10:41:18

The working class were not taken in by benevolent Corbyn, his momentum pals and the great British give away.
The working class voted overwhelmingly for the Tories.
The working class know exactly what they are doing and where the best outlook for the UK is.
The working class were not bullied by left wing luvvies whose only way to win votes for their ultra left wing party was to pour insult after insult upon the very people they pretend to represent.
A great day for democracy and for MY working class.

Teetime Fri 13-Dec-19 10:45:56

Well said Annecan.

lemongrove Fri 13-Dec-19 10:47:10

Well said Annecan It’s what some find so unpalatable isn’t it, that working class people rejected the LP this time around.
What they really rejected was a couple of Marxists telling them what was good for them.Annoy the electorate at your peril!

libra10 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:48:42

"Maybe the working class oop north who have chucked their Labour MPs did it to halt Jeremy Corbyn.
Not necessarily because they have suddenly become born again Tories."

As one of the 'working class oop north', so patronisingly stated by QuaintIrene, although living in a safe Conservative seat, I certainly did not vote Conservative merely to thwart J C.

Although I disliked his policies immensely and his spend, spend, spend ideology, I voted to hopefully see a more successful UK. J C would have ruined the country.

EMMF1948 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:50:42

Define 'working class'.
Had Corbyn won who would have paid for his ridiculous plans? Not the non-working class nor the seriously wealthy who can afford avoidance lawyers, it would have been the working class, ie those who work and pay their taxes every week/month.
It's about time that we stopped using terminology like 'working class' from the thirties.

QuaintIrene Fri 13-Dec-19 11:05:00

libra10 I didn’t mean to sound patronising at all. I am from a Northern working class family who supported Labour all their lives.
A fail on my behalf for trying to point out that we aren’t all thick despite our accents.
JC was so out of touch with the electorate he thought would support him just because he was Labour.
He would have ruined our country.
Yes, I think so.

growstuff Fri 13-Dec-19 11:23:15

I agree with you Witzend. Everybody who wants a better society, wherever they live, needs to start really listening to and understanding the fears of people who have almost certainly voted against their own interests.

Let Johnson hoist himself with his own petard! He must be held to account by a credible opposition.

"Hope is being able to see there is light despite all of the darkness."

Desmond Tutu

lavenderzen Fri 13-Dec-19 11:32:49

'working class oop north'

What a horrible patronising statement, I didn't see that.

I was brought up in a working class, strong Labour voting family. My dad would despair as what has happened to the Labour Party, which has been destroyed by JC and his idiotic ideas, and his wavering from one thing to another with absolutely no regard for democracy.

We have the right result today.

QuaintIrene Fri 13-Dec-19 11:42:33

lavenderzen I was not patronising anyone.
I do not, knowingly make horrible statements.

growstuff Fri 13-Dec-19 12:00:00

'working class oop north'

I think it was meant ironically and not as an insult (but could be wrong).

I don't think anybody who earns below the mean income and/or relies on public services has the "right result", but we all need to listen to why those who will lose out over the next few years voted the way they did.

I don't think the reason is a simple one and the solution certainly isn't.

growstuff Fri 13-Dec-19 12:00:55

PS. Democracy isn't the simple concept people would like to think it is either.

QuaintIrene Fri 13-Dec-19 12:09:46

Yes I was being ironic.

sodapop Fri 13-Dec-19 15:50:46

Really ? QuaintIrene

I agree with you Lavenderzen And once again the northern accent is equated with a lack of intelligence.

Charleygirl5 Fri 13-Dec-19 18:56:52

I would never ever vote for a Marxist so far left he is off the map or for a lying toad who can't be trusted. For once I voted for somebody else.

With luck, BJ will be reminded he has a manifesto. I am sure he will not be able to fulfil everything but a stab at the NHS and social care with a decent amount of money would be a start.

Chewbacca Fri 13-Dec-19 19:07:42

It would have been in my own personal best interests to have voted for Corbyn because he had "promised" to recompense us WASPI women although he didn't explain where he'd get the money from. So whilst I, personally, stood to benefit to the tune of £31,000 from Labour leading the country; I decided against voting for him just for my own personal gains. So, how do you feel about that grannyrebel? Does that make me a better or worse person?

Urmstongran Fri 13-Dec-19 19:46:30

Me too Chebacca!

Urmstongran Fri 13-Dec-19 19:48:23

London Remainers are on a protest march over the result of the GE right now.