Dear Conservative Voters,

I haven't visited the site for a while and see the daily anti-Tory threads are still going.

Coming from a working class background I resent the assumption that I have "shot myself in the foot" as if being working class I am unable to understand the differences between the various parties and their policies.

The Labour party lost votes because the people didn't like their policies, didn't like the fact they only listen to those in the London bubble and took the working class vote for granted. We don't want handouts, we want to be able to keep what we earn through our hard work.

That makes total sense to me growstuff

It is galling for people in those areas who really struggled to better themselves to be told by champagne socialists down south that they shouldnt want to better themselves in those sort of "materialistic/selfish" ways

I wonder if it was the same friend grannysyb

I'm not at all surprised either. They're proud people and didn't want to be patronised by Corbyn.

I've been chatting online to somebody who lives in one of the places which turned blue on Thursday (and voted Conservative himself), despite being a very deprived area and (nearly) always having voted Labour.

The overall feeling I took away from the conversation was that people want to feel positive. They tend to be labelled as deprived and in need of benefits. They don't want that - they look down their noses at people claiming benefits as much as anybody else. They want the opportunity for decent education and jobs, so they can buy a house, have a decent car, go on holidays, etc (all the normal stuff). They want to feel proud of where they live and not feel frightened of crime and disgusted by litter and graffiti.

Many of them will, of course, achieve that by going away to college and/or going to live in a different place … then they'll become so-called middle-Englanders. It seems to me that people think that Labour looks down its nose at people like that. Some of them cling to old-fashioned ideas about a romanticised working class. Life has moved on.

My opinion is that people in deprived areas who voted Conservative have just shot themselves in the foot, but it's not for me to tell them. Somehow (and I don't know how) there has to be some movement speaking up for people in "forgotten" towns doing shitty or "self-employed" jobs. I don't think Labour has listened and that's why they've lost so many votes.

Exactly notanan2

Spoke to a friend from Redcar this morning, who wasn't at all surprised it had gone Tory. All governments have been too Londoncentric for far too long.

Boris not delivering his promises is less of a worry than JC delivering half of his would be.

That is the point. The results speak for themselves and the exit poles show that people care more about stopping momentum than anything else

Boris couldn’t find his way out of a paper bag. Deliver? When he couldn’t even hack it as Foreign Secretary?

This is Trump all over again. Lies and more lies. And has he delivered The Wall (to be paid for by Mexico ???) ? Of course not. He said what people wanted to hear. Just like Boris.

Are we really so naive to believe Boris will upend a decade of Tory cuts to public services? When he was part of the government who pushed them through?

Trump and Boris. Two ‘men’ who only think of themselves ??

Labour's "birthright" to the young, working class and the North no longer exists.

Generally i just avoid politics like the plague when chatting to people. Give it a few days and I won't be seen on news and politics again lol

Aspersions, an attack on someone's reputation or integrity. As in suggesting I am only here to cause some sort of strife bcause my username is not recognised

Am I missing something - what is " aspergions"?

Studies suggest young people are staying Liberal as they age thses days, as apposed to the past where they tended to start to dislike change and change to Conservative to protect the status quo

Middle aged Momentum types tell 18-25 yr olds that they're supposed to vote labour cause all Tories hate them..

... but clearly they did not do what they were told..

But Momentum types arent getting the hint!

Yes, young people and students are generally Labour voters, but when they become salary-earners themselves they appear to change their politics. I have noticed this trend over many years. I wonder why this is? Couldn't be anything to do with the fact it's "their money" that's being spent!!!

And don't forget tackle climate change urgently. Though haven't said anything about that. They don't have the Green Industrial Revolution that's what Labour woukd have done.

5 years is probably a fair timescale to make very solid in rails into his promises. Let's face it, of after 5 years he has impressed me, he will ha emy vote.

Boris has 5 years. There's no magic wand to change things instantly.
At the end of those 5 years we vote again accordingly.

18 to 24 year olds are by majority labour voters

Not "if only"as in I wish that. If only as in, 18 to 24 year old who Did actually vote had voted

Momentum tell people my age to vote labour because it is what my children would want. It is not!

Children arent automatically labour by default.

Well POGS, I think there are a lot of 'deluded' people who think that come (whatever the leaving date in vogue currently is) that things will be happening. But to be fair, I gave it until the end of next year - so that's 12 months - to see some implementations of all the things we have been promised. I think that's pretty reasonable.

My teens did the 30 mins Vote For Policies quiz even though they cant vote yet. The both got Conservative!

This is more momentum propoganda, that there are all these untapped labour votes waiting in the wings in the form of non voters or young people.

Its another Momentum myth.

There are people who usually voted in the past who didnt vote this time because they did not want to vote for a momentum led labour
Not because they didnt know how to vote etc.

No! The no-shows and the pre voting age people are NOT automatic labour supporters!

What difference does it make? GE's are won and lost on how people vote, not how those who didn't may have voted.

Never assumed anything. I know a few Conservative who didn't vote for hating Boris.