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Nigel Farage and the Brexit Party

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Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 15:39:32

In all the post-election threads there has been no mention of Nigel Farage so I thought I would remedy that. If nothing else, it will give the remainers a chance to vent some more bile as I know they love to hate him. But before they start tearing him to shreds just consider this.

There were many pre-election comments accusing him of self-glorification and putting himself before the country. I can’t think of anyone less deserving of that allegation. Here we have a man who worked tirelessly for 25 years towards one goal, and who effectively fell on his sword for the sake of achieving that goal. In handing his voters to the Tories on a plate he sacrificed his political career, hardly the actions of a self-serving career politician. Over the last few years, other parties have consistently stolen his policies when they realized it was what voters wanted. Consequently, he has influenced the political landscape more than anyone else and without even entering Parliament. That is an amazing achievement. I heard someone describe him as ‘the most influential politician of the post-Blair era’.

Whether you love him or hate him, that is a factual description, and I think history books of the future will probably recognize his achievements far more than we do.

SirChenjin Mon 16-Dec-19 11:03:27

You mean the English and Welsh people Chestnut - not British.

Chestnut Mon 16-Dec-19 10:22:13

The people I respect are MP's like Dominic Grieve who left their jobs that they had devoted their lives to on principle
I thought Saint Dominic had been kicked out by the voters last week when he lost his seat. It wasn't his choice. Farage is the one who voluntarily sacrificed himself and his party. The British people certainly know how to deal with troublemakers like Grieve through the ballot box. They have removed all the remainer MPs who have been blocking Brexit for the last three years.

Callistemon Mon 16-Dec-19 10:02:52

How old are you growstuff?
Probably younger than me.
I'm talking just after WW2.

growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 23:53:34

Labaik Yes, they probably did. The LME traders had a reputation for being the "barrow boys" of the City.

growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 23:52:34

The boys I knew didn't sing it.

Callistemon Sun 15-Dec-19 23:48:59

Not defending Farage, but lots of the boys used to sing it.
I think they liked to think they were shocking the girls (it's not that bad).

Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 23:46:51

I remember the boys at school singing a song about Hitler and his henchman. It was rather rude and sung to the tune of Colonel Bogey
Exactly my point Callistemon. You can take something like that and embellish it. There have been endless smear campaigns and twisted stories which as I said some people believe if it suits their agenda.

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 23:37:12

I wonder if they thought that 'merchant banker' was more appropriate?

growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 23:23:30

To be accurate, Farage was a trader on the London Metals Exchange, not a merchant banker.

Callistemon Sun 15-Dec-19 23:15:30

Henchmen.

Callistemon Sun 15-Dec-19 23:14:40

I remember the boys at school singing a song about Hitler and his henchman.
It was rather rude and sung to the tune of Colonel Bogey

Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 23:08:57

Singing Hitler songs at school Bluebelle? I think you've been taken in there. Farage is so hated by fanatical remainers and the far left they will do anything to discredit him, tell half a story or make one up. You can't believe everything you read. But once you've set your mind to something it's easy to see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear.

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 23:03:10

How many people make a career out of sabotaging their employers. And take home a fat pay cheque each month for not turning up and representing the people they were paid to represent? Who use that platform to appear on tv, radio; travel round the world giving speeches to right wing organisations. Who get people to pay to join their political party company and then tell those that want to stand for election not to do so [after they've paid for the privilege]. Who get fined in 2018 for misusing European funds; failing to declare the free use of an office in 2014 and in 2019 was fined for a brutal verbal attack on an EU chief?

JenniferEccles Sun 15-Dec-19 22:50:01

He undoubtably was instrumental in forcing Cameron to give us the EU referendum so I am indebted to him for that.

I am certain if it hadn’t been for Farage’s success the referendum would never have happened.

Then he set up the Brexit party which did extraordinary well in the European elections despite only being in existence for a matter of weeks.

Finally he agreed to withdraw his MPs from safe Tory seats which helped Boris to his great victory.

So yes a huge thanks to Nigel from me.

It’s very probable we wouldn’t be in the happy position we are in now if it weren’t for him.

Callistemon Sun 15-Dec-19 22:42:07

Surely he sabotaged his own career as an MEP by campaigning so vigorously to leave the EU?

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 22:15:49

' I’m just up for trying something new, because what we’ve had isn’t working'
...and your solution to the Irish problem is?

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 20:00:00

Sorry please can anyone alert me to bile spitting remainers?

SirChenjin Sun 15-Dec-19 19:56:53

Bile spitting? Only if you’re of the xenophobic, racist, sexist, bigoted persuasion.

endlessstrife Sun 15-Dec-19 19:47:41

Chestnut, you were right, it’s provoked more bile spitting from the remainers. The thing that confuses me, is all the bad stuff was already here, and has been for decades, being in the EU. I could understand it if we’d had a perfect country and now we’re going to ruin it by electing in Boris and co, but we haven’t. The NHS for example, was in trouble in the early eighties, when I was a nurse, and always has been. All politicians are questionable, it won’t just be Farage with a fat pension! I’m just up for trying something new, because what we’ve had isn’t working.

Urmstongran Sun 15-Dec-19 19:47:27

He engineered Brexit I’ll give him that and put the wind up all the political parties at the election for MEP’s winning his own stonking majority.

The Tory party sat up and took notice, acting accordingly, in tune with what the majority of the voting public wanted.

Farage now?

He’s a busted flush.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 19:07:15

He keeps saying he has been offered a peerage, but has turned it down. If you can believe that you can believe anything.

labaik absolutely agree with your post of 17.21 re: those with principles who stood down.

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 19:02:19

Didn't the EU refer to him as 'merchant banker'? Which, is what he was. Man of the people my foot.

varian Sun 15-Dec-19 18:54:55

Do we expect to see Farage rewarded in the New Years Honours list?

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 18:49:02

Smug, right wing racists who want to wave a little flag and remember the Empire.

growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 18:14:15

Whenever people used to call him a "man of the people" or "just like us", I used to wonder what kind of people could identify with him.