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Nigel Farage and the Brexit Party

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Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 15:39:32

In all the post-election threads there has been no mention of Nigel Farage so I thought I would remedy that. If nothing else, it will give the remainers a chance to vent some more bile as I know they love to hate him. But before they start tearing him to shreds just consider this.

There were many pre-election comments accusing him of self-glorification and putting himself before the country. I can’t think of anyone less deserving of that allegation. Here we have a man who worked tirelessly for 25 years towards one goal, and who effectively fell on his sword for the sake of achieving that goal. In handing his voters to the Tories on a plate he sacrificed his political career, hardly the actions of a self-serving career politician. Over the last few years, other parties have consistently stolen his policies when they realized it was what voters wanted. Consequently, he has influenced the political landscape more than anyone else and without even entering Parliament. That is an amazing achievement. I heard someone describe him as ‘the most influential politician of the post-Blair era’.

Whether you love him or hate him, that is a factual description, and I think history books of the future will probably recognize his achievements far more than we do.

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 15:42:15

He is a nasty racist who has caused untold damage.

Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 15:45:40

If he is a racist how come the Brexit Party has at least or possibly more diversity in its candidates than other parties? He is concerned (as are many) about numbers entering the country which has nothing to do with race.

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 15:57:20

Ok whatever you like. The numbers of what....cattle? birds? smarties?

Chestnut Sun 15-Dec-19 16:04:12

You used the term 'racist' which usually refers to humans and that's what I took it to mean unless you meant something else.

growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 16:08:26

People from ethnic minority backgrounds can be as racist as anybody else.

As for Farage … the sooner he toddles off to the US with a one-way ticket, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 16:11:30


Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 16:41:21

He sacrificed his political career? I don't remember him ever being elected to parliament. I agree about his influence and have always said he's not the lovable jolly chap he makes himself to be but someone far more cunning and dangerous. He has been taking home a wage for being an MEP and hardly sitting in Brussels. He supports right wing groups in Europe and speaks at their rallies. He shafted the people who paid to represent his party company. He's now sucking up to Trump, yet again. If we don't mention him, maybe it's because some of us want to try to forget him, just as we walk out of the room if he's on the tv or switch the radio off when we hear his voice because he nauseates us.

Charleygirl5 Sun 15-Dec-19 16:51:27

Labaik I could not agree more- he rarely visited Brussels for meetings and was well paid for shirking.

BlueBelle Sun 15-Dec-19 16:59:25

He’s a hideous and dangerous man if you don’t think he’s racist I can’t imagine what you must be like yourself he is xenophobic, talks about women in a vile way there’s one quote about women not being so useful to a firm if she takes long maternity leave quoting something like I ve made so many women pregnant perhaps I think differently about it
He admires Putin and says the ‘Syrian thing was excellent’ he thinks that climate change is a scam, he feels uncomfortable hearing people talking in another language he quotes Enoch Powell’s rivers of blood speech as admirable He has bragged about taking 2 million of taxpayers money in expenses
O my word I could go on and on
I remember reading about him being pulled up for singing Hitler songs when he was at school
I m the same as you Labaik I switch the radio off when I hear his voice he makes me sick to my stomach

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 17:21:47

By the way, can anyone fill me in with how much of a pension he will get from the EU, even though he was rarely there? The people I respect are MP's like Dominic Grieve who left their jobs that they had devoted their lives to on principle because they despised Johnson; ditto those Labour MP's that left the party because they didn't like the way the party was heading. They had everything to lose and nothing to gain but stood up for what they thought was right.

Witzend Sun 15-Dec-19 17:28:14

Regardless of his,politics, I never could stand the man. He's always reminded me of a spivvy used car salesman.

SirChenjin Sun 15-Dec-19 18:11:41

If your xenophobic, racist, bigoted, sexist and supportive of oppressive regimes then I can I imagine he would appeal to you, yes.

SirChenjin Sun 15-Dec-19 18:11:48


growstuff Sun 15-Dec-19 18:14:15

Whenever people used to call him a "man of the people" or "just like us", I used to wonder what kind of people could identify with him.

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 18:49:02

Smug, right wing racists who want to wave a little flag and remember the Empire.

varian Sun 15-Dec-19 18:54:55

Do we expect to see Farage rewarded in the New Years Honours list?

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 19:02:19

Didn't the EU refer to him as 'merchant banker'? Which, is what he was. Man of the people my foot.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 19:07:15

He keeps saying he has been offered a peerage, but has turned it down. If you can believe that you can believe anything.

labaik absolutely agree with your post of 17.21 re: those with principles who stood down.

Urmstongran Sun 15-Dec-19 19:47:27

He engineered Brexit I’ll give him that and put the wind up all the political parties at the election for MEP’s winning his own stonking majority.

The Tory party sat up and took notice, acting accordingly, in tune with what the majority of the voting public wanted.

Farage now?

He’s a busted flush.

endlessstrife Sun 15-Dec-19 19:47:41

Chestnut, you were right, it’s provoked more bile spitting from the remainers. The thing that confuses me, is all the bad stuff was already here, and has been for decades, being in the EU. I could understand it if we’d had a perfect country and now we’re going to ruin it by electing in Boris and co, but we haven’t. The NHS for example, was in trouble in the early eighties, when I was a nurse, and always has been. All politicians are questionable, it won’t just be Farage with a fat pension! I’m just up for trying something new, because what we’ve had isn’t working.

SirChenjin Sun 15-Dec-19 19:56:53

Bile spitting? Only if you’re of the xenophobic, racist, sexist, bigoted persuasion.

inkcog Sun 15-Dec-19 20:00:00

Sorry please can anyone alert me to bile spitting remainers?

Labaik Sun 15-Dec-19 22:15:49

' I’m just up for trying something new, because what we’ve had isn’t working'
...and your solution to the Irish problem is?

Callistemon Sun 15-Dec-19 22:42:07

Surely he sabotaged his own career as an MEP by campaigning so vigorously to leave the EU?