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How long will Boris last?

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trisher Tue 17-Dec-19 21:04:35

As a bit of amusement I was trying to work ut how long Boris will stick at the job of PM. He's not big on commitment. I think he'll want to go down in history as the man who did Brexit, but I don't think he'll wnt to stick around afterwards. I think he'll be getting himself bounced up to the H of Lords once it's done. Anyone else want to guess at how long he'll last?

Cindersdad Thu 23-Jan-20 12:22:21

Sadly too long but he is on shaky ground. In the General Election the Tories got 45% of the poll and around a third of the electorate did not vote therefore only around 30% of the electorate voted for him. Only time will time tell but if he becomes unpopular the Tories are quite likely to ditch him.

Under PR they would only have 294 seats as opposed to the 356 they have. Under PR the voting pattern may well have been different. When Brexit hits problems Boris will be vulnerable from all sides.

trisher Sun 19-Jan-20 12:02:10

alanginsberg grin

alanginsberg Sun 19-Jan-20 11:18:35

Ive knitted a Boris Jumper
each time I put it on...
I feel the wool being pulled over my eyes.....

Grany Sun 19-Jan-20 11:14:16

Jaxie The left is where Labour has its roots its proper Labour Not this centrist stuff those troublesome Blairites Blair now has a lucrative business advising leaders of rogue states. Centrists Blairites are Tory lite from what I can see.

Remember he took country to war on lies he was warned it would lead to turmoil in Middle East But said from beginning I will be with you Bush all the way.

Grany Sun 19-Jan-20 10:59:22

Good Question.

People in this country are too oppressed by class and whatever knowing their place with the top of the pile being the monarchy deference to one family, people too passive to act for themselves the propaganda by right wing press MSM and by oppression of this rogue government.

In France it is a different matter hardly ever is it reported about what is happening there just bare minimum coverage. Macron had to get out theatre side entrance as the people were coming for him. The People are wining.

Jaxie Sun 19-Jan-20 10:16:46

If Keir Starmer isn't elected leader of the Labour Party I'm cancelling my membership. The ultra lefties have wrecked the party: their opinions have no relevance for most people and have encouraged the traditional Labour voters to opt for Boris & Co. Does anyone really think his government really cares about state education and the health service?

Labaik Mon 30-Dec-19 14:40:40

Boris Johnson has pledged to raise the amount paid by NHS workers born overseas to use the NHS by a third.
That means a health professional from abroad with a partner & 2 children will have to pay £2,500 a year - on top of paying taxes and national insurance from their salaries - just to use the service that they themselves have come to the UK to provide us with.
With a desperate shortage of 10,000 doctors & 43,000 nurses you would be forgiven for thinking the conservative government is either incredibly stupid or guilty of deliberately sabotaging the NHS.
How will Johnson provide the NHS with the 50,000 nurses and 6,000 doctors he promised, whilst simultaneously making policy that will deter overseas health professionals from taking the available jobs?

growstuff Mon 30-Dec-19 14:36:03

Nope! It's what people claim.

Why would it cause you to "Blimey" anyway? I've never been a fan of Corbyn.

Opal Mon 30-Dec-19 13:59:00

Blimey growstuff, have you just admitted that Corbyn is a neo-hippy Marxist? grin grin grin

growstuff Mon 30-Dec-19 13:20:20

Does the Brexit embargo cover Northern Ireland and Gibraltar?

growstuff Mon 30-Dec-19 13:19:10

There you go! You've just proved my point Opal.

I honestly think Johnson's future depends on the path the Labour Party chooses to take, not what he does (or doesn't do).

Opal Mon 30-Dec-19 13:07:03

Shrug - yes it IS better than a neo-hippy Marxist! grin

Labaik Mon 30-Dec-19 12:44:09

No one is preventing people from posting Johnson's achievements, are they? Or have I missed something. Thus far he has won an election [hurrah] had a holiday, is taking us out of the EU on 31st and is giving us a Brexit that cannot be scrutinised by parliament. Oh and, I understand we're not to mention Brexit after 31st, although not sure what will happen if we do. Have our tongues cut out, perhaps. We do live in interesting times do we not....

growstuff Mon 30-Dec-19 12:17:34

I think Johnson will last five years. He has a huge majority and a government and parliamentary party (and HoL) full of yes-people.

Whether or not he wins a GE in five years depends on whether there is a trustworthy and credible alternative - the current Labour Party or something else.

It doesn't matter how much mud is thrown at him because it just slides off. People just shrug their shoulders and claim it's a better than a neo-hippy Marxist. Sorry, but that's the reality and I doubt very much whether people's emotions will be changed.

varian Mon 30-Dec-19 11:36:52

What a sad state of affairs when what used to be shocking, and should be shocking, is considered "boring" by those who no longer care about the truth.

trisher Mon 30-Dec-19 11:34:09

Oh come on Chestnut the MSM won't do to Boris what they did to Corbyn, so let us have a little balance here. Anyway how is it 'bashing' to quote him? Now if I was to refer to him as a lying, duplicitous, posh, rich Tory who used to be a member of a club which burned banknotes in front of homeless people- that's bashing!!!!

varian Mon 30-Dec-19 11:33:58

Boris Johnson once told The Independent that his mistakes “are too numerous to list in full”,

Just one example-

In January Boris Johnson claimed he did not mention Turkey during the referendum after it was suggested he falsely claimed 80 million Turks would come to Britain unless the UK left the EU.

In fact, he co-signed a letter stating that “the only way to avoid having common borders with Turkey is to vote Leave and take back control”. The Vote Leave campaign also produced a poster reading: “Turkey (population 76 million) is joining the EU”, adding “David Cameron wants Turkey to join the EU. How will our NHS cope?”.

Mr Johnson, whose great-grandfather was the Ottoman politican Ali Kemal, was also quoted as saying “I am very pro-Turkish but what I certainly can’t imagine is a situation in which 77 million of my fellow Turks and those of Turkish origin can come here without any checks at all. That is mad – that won’t work.”

Mr Johnson’s Turkish cousin commented: “He doesn’t strike me as being very honest about his views.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html

He has lied to every woman in his life. He even lied to the queen. How can anyone ever believe a word he says?

Jabberwok Mon 30-Dec-19 11:31:11

I agree Chesnut! Predictable and deeply boring!!?

Chestnut Mon 30-Dec-19 11:22:14

I see the usual crowd have reappeared to turn this back into a Boris bashing thread. Just let them get on with it.

varian Mon 30-Dec-19 11:12:11

Boris Johnson is notorious for being a habitual liar, but just occasionally he says something true, as he did as recently as 2016

Tooting29 Mon 30-Dec-19 06:52:48

Noting this article originally came from the mirror and Twitter has this been authenticated in any way or just headline grabbing.

Labaik Sun 29-Dec-19 19:43:13

Burglaries in Uxbridge have increased by 68% in the past 12 months. Good job they've now got an MP who is tough on crime. Oh, hang on a minute....confused….

Grany Sun 29-Dec-19 12:20:46

Private firms invited to run NHS services

twitter.com/nikpet1/status/1211243128763637761?s=20

Grany Sun 29-Dec-19 12:15:18

Nicola #NotMyPM #SaveOurNHS?
@nikpet1
And the ill-informed believed the NHS was safe in Tories hands and voted for them!

EXCLUSIVE: The Conservatives are inviting private firms to bid for NHS cardiology, gynaecology, paediatrics and oncology services in big sell out
#Corbynwasright #Corbynisright

trisher Sun 29-Dec-19 10:27:27

If you want a thread called that Irishlady you are completely freeto sart one. The discussions on GN drift. It's a bit like conversations with friends you don't stick to asingle subject, you go where the conversation leads. You also don't turn up half way through and demand the conversation start again, you just slot in.
Davidhs I'm so glad you agree that a nomadic lifestyle should be supported, something the Tories haven't done so far.