Sensible discussion on Labour Leadership hopefuls

Urmstongran well put, I would be happy to see a more centrist Labour Party with a strong and dare I say it “charismatic” leader.

Who would be good at the dispatch box and therefore keep Boris Johnson “on his toes”

As the Labour Party is at this moment in time in the grip of the far left of the Party who have very successfully ensconced themselves at the heart of Labour in the Labour Leaders office /NEC /Momentum it follows those eligible to vote in a Leadership Contest hold the trump card to vote in a candidate in the image of Corbyn/McDonnell.

Those candidates are most likely Rebecca Long Bailey, Richard Burgon, Ian Lavery given Angela Raynor is in a perceived pact with Long Bailey not to stand but if she wins Raynor will be in a plum job such as Deputy Leader. Long Bailey has been promoted by John McDonnell at every turn for quite some time now and would be the most likely winner.

If, there is a surge in members from centrist new members they would have a small chance to elect the likes of Lisa Nandy, Jess Phillips, Wes Streeting.

At the same time Labour is in the grip of ' splitting' and the party is heading for a tumultuous time as the 2 factions square off against each other, I stress ' POSSIBLY'.

NB

Omitted Stephen Kinnock, I agree he could well put his name on the ballot.

Quite a pragmatist in my opinion.

There is no Labour Party , it died when Corbyn became leader.

John McDonnell has been calling his favourites 'Becky' and 'Angie' - presumably trying to make them more user friendly (or charismatic)

anniebach: so which party did you vote for? And why?

Yesterday I read Angela Rayner calls herself ‘Grangela’ now she is a granny at 39y!

Yggdrasil I didn’t vote. There was only Lib. Labour or Tory .

The Labour candidate is a friend so I was very upset I couldn’t vote for him.

Emily Thornberry has now announced she is going for Leader.

I hope she wins!

Good grief!!!!

I think it's brilliant and it will certainly be a divisive campaign.

Anniebach: why couldn't you vote for your Labour friend? It is the policies that count, not the leader, And Johnson has now such a majority he can do what he likes with the NHS, and all the rest of the country too

Yggdrasil yes policies count, so does the leader, they can not
be separated.

If I agreed with the Tory policies I would not have voted for
Johnson .

Perhaps we should be thinking less about current policies and more about core values. After all, leaders come and go with the wind.

Anniebach Wed 18-Dec-19 11:31:07
There is no Labour Party , it died when Corbyn became leader.

Stupid comment. A lot of us JOINED because of him, thus giving your statement the lie.

Yes GagaJo a lot of you joined when Corbyn became leader ,
and brought the tories to power.

I joined when Jo Grimond was leader

Jo Grimond?

My thoughts wandered back ?, a discussion between my parents about Grimond and Gaitskell , sorry

A lot of people joined Labour to ensure Corbyn became leader

Because he was unelectable

Seems like they made the right decision

Bit childish really and rather odd but it certainly happened.

Just rejoined this thread. I thought it was supposed to be a sensible discussion about the next leader of the Labour Party.

Annieback your post of12.28Says it all imo.

But I despair that the LP will ever be a party that the people of Scotland will ever trust again.We have 1 labour MP up here.!!!

From all I hear;all I research and all that the various news programs broadcast, I despair of Labour listening to the people. We have shouted out loud to them and still JC and JMCD are spouting out the same old rubbish.

They put Boris In power all by themselves. They should be ashamed.

No excuse.

Point is though, it didn't DIE because of him. It GREW because of him.

Be accurate.

But, it didnt get in with him in charge. Indisputable fact!

No, true. But more members.