Damage done to the UK ALREADY following the elction

Thank you Jabberwok.

Telling someone to emigrate if they don't like it is basically a covert way of telling them to truck off.. That was a covert way of saying the other thing btw

I would hate to live in China. I like living here, and inasmuch as anyone can lay claim to a country, this one is 'mine'. I have lived here all my life, and see no reason why the fact that I am uneasy about the way politics is going should mean that I should leave.

Did you push off to Brazil or somewhere when we had a Labour government, Dottynan?

You're welcome Dottynan ( I love the name!☺️).
No one on here has as far as I'm aware, has ever praised the government of Brazil so why would anyone want to go there?!

It is a regime that, by the same logic as Dottynan used, might appeal to someone who had issues with a Labour government (ie 'if you don't like it, go somewhere with a different way of ruling'). If Brazil is the wrong choice, choose another country with a regime that is a long way from centrist socialism - it really doesn't matter to the point I was making.

Thank you Jabberwok. That's one step forward. How does that relate to the OP, please.

The OP listed listed a number of concerns about issues which voters might not have been aware of.

Maybe they were aware. In which case how do they justify them?

Maybe they weren't aware. In which case, do they feel they were conned? Or do they still prefer to keep their heads in the sand and ignore them?

Maybe they want to dispute the claims. Who knows?

This isn't some kind of political game. This is reality for millions of people.

tooting Jane10 and Jabberwok and Opal ???
Well said, all of you.
I suppose the disappointed LP and Corbyn supporters on GN just have to have things to moan and groan about at all times, and will no doubt do so for the next five years!
Those of us who got the result we wanted are happy and have had an enjoyable Christmas,so maybe we should feel sorry for them.......or not??

Either way, you would think they may have wanted a break, but apparently not.

Nobody can ever take a break from poverty, disability or serious illness.

I had hoped the Botanical Bullies were indulging in cheap Prosecco and emotional tat, so wouldn't have time for GN. Apparently not!

Those of us who got the result we wanted are happy and have had an enjoyable Christmas,so maybe we should feel sorry for them.......or not??

Not a thought for anyone less fortunate. Says it all really.

BTW, time to move on from Corbyn Lemongrove. He's long gone. Try to focus on the government we have now.

So witty growstuff! I was about to include a sarcastic comment, but yours trumps mine, so I won't bother.

It wasn't intended to be witty. It was written from my heart, as my own experience of Christmas.

Probably better to ignore people who think they are winning some sort of Internet points. A life without compassion or any relevant thought is not a happy one... That is why they take it out on others

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I agree Starblaze. It really makes me wonder how such people have become so bitter and self-centred.

2nd part growstuff, not the first bit. I agree. Sending you love. Not any practical use I know.

I agree, Starblaze.

Thank you GagaJo. I would have spent Christmas Day and Boxing Day totally on my own, so I volunteered with a local charity. It was an interesting experience and has left me emotionally drained and more angry than ever with some of the posters on here.

Hilarious!?
Virtue signalling and poor jokes, I wonder who you were in past GN lives growstuff ( although I have a good idea.)
Give it up! Sour left wing ranting has no effect on me at all.

Is there a single post on here from the right wingers that actually discusses the things in the OP instead of just criticising those who find the OP very worrying and disturbing? I think not. I can only conclude that either they are too ashamed to admit that these things are happening or are closing their eyes to them.

I really don't mind those with different political viewpoints. But the sheer nastiness of some posters on here really does show how easy would be for Britain to sink into the morass of extreme-right cruelty, USA style (caging of refugee children, allowing a known rapist to become a supreme court judge, encouraging the build-up of racism).

I thought the British were better than that.

Nowhere on this thread have I seen any poster who is happy with this new government give any sensible response to the questions asked e.g.

How do they feel about the back tracking on the number of nurses.
How do they feel about the NHS.
Pay risers for MPs
etc.

All I have seen is denial. My responses have been based on experience, especially the one on Social Benefits and care maybe those that are happy have private health care and will not have to worry about the NHS, maybe they have never had or know anyone who has applied for benefits. So please can we have some sensible responses from the doubters.

Exactly BoB. The spitting venom doesn't get them anywhere. I just end up thinking they lack capacity. If so it's not their fault. Catch on to an out of date saying like "virtue signalling" and think it proves how clever you are. Sad really.

One thing I did hear this evening, and it will be interesting to see how it turns out, is that the government is going across government departments and setting up a form of citizens assemblies to decide on the future plans for farming. I can't find anything about it but it seems to be a bit of a trend.

It is truly sad that instead of interesting rebuttals to proven points it’s all name calling and ignoring of “hard questions”.

I suppose once you’ve “won”, the results don’t matter again until the next election.

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@Scotscouser

Gordon Duff and his intelligence team think it was fixed. He starts talking about it at 5:22

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