Danger man Trump strikes again

Where?
Iran?

Or do you mean Iraq?

No-one has any illusions!

It was possible to travel and live freely in Iran until the Ayatollah took over. I've friends who lived and worked there but had to leave when everything changed. Photographs taken show them all wearing western clothes and friendly relationships between various nationalities, including Iranians.

Police Officers, fire personnel, social workers, teachers, NHS staff are amongst many who find themselves struggling psychologically because of their work experiences. Or because something happening in their personal lives is impacting on their ability to work effectively. All those organisations offer counselling services to their employees. Free of charge and confidential. Very much like that on offer for current and former military personnel. The difference I suspect, is that the military are less open to the reality of the psychological trauma its employees can suffer. The police used to be very similar, but thankfully has moved forward. If you're living on the streets, drinking and taking drugs, engaging with therapeutic services of any kind is unlikely

trisher after reading your posts on Iran ( in jaw dropping amazement) I had to laugh when you wrote to Callistemon that she ‘had only a slight grasp of reality’ ?
I expect Corbyn would agree with you though, he may plan a lovely cycling holiday there this year.

Breaking news from BBC:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said "we will not lament" Qasem Soleimani's death, describing him as "a threat to all our interests".

But he called for "de-escalation from all sides" following the killing of the Iranian general in a US airstrike in Iraq.

Mr Johnson trying to straddle both sides of the argument. I hope he remains steadfast in refusing to allow us to be drawn into any war.

I don't think its "playing devil's advocate" Callistemon; I think it's more a case of having very little real knowledge of what life in Iran is actually like for ordinary citizens. Spouting sound bites of holiday destinations and women cyclists isn't the same as having knowledge or understanding of what life has been like in Iran since Ayatollah Khomeini returned from exile.

Callistemon ''Where?
Iran?

Or do you mean Iraq?'

NO Iran

BBC News, 10th of November

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50365235

jura I did not know we had troops in Iran.

Do you have a link please?

Our relations with Iran had improved recently and that was a good thing, despite their oppressive regime.. I am now worried about the British and Australian women detainees incarcerated there.

Iran has placed an $80million bounty on Donald Trump's head and threatened to attack the White House in response to the president's warning that any strike on American interests in the region will bring massive retaliation.

Callistemon, you're right, we don't currently have any military personnel based in Iran. The nearest are in Baghdad, Iraq and they're being advised to leave pdq.

What a menace to the world Trump is Urmstongran. Dangerous and stupid.

I thought George W was bad but

If anyone posting on this thread can indicate to me how killing the General and condemning Iran will in anyway improve human rights there I will completely acknowledge that they know more. Until then I will retain my opinion that things were improving, that opening up to tourism is a positive, that women leading iniatives and promoting ideas is a good thing and that the way to change is not through demonising and attacking but by encouraging and inter-acting. It may be naive to think things can and do improve but it is a damn sight better than demonising a whole country.

Where on earth did I say we have troops in Iran???

Agreed trisher.

I think here jura message jura2 Sun 05-Jan-20 18:58:21
The last line?

Was talking about new oil fields

If people ask questions, they should ask the poster by name and quote- or it becomes nonsense.

The Iranian regime and its like is far more of a menace to the world than any of the Western leaders. Those of you blaming Trump need to take a long hard look at the Middle East - their leaders hate everything about the West and our freedoms, they are the enemy, not Trump.

Been reading the DM again hey

or it becomes nonsense

Indeed it does. And it would have helped if you'd referred to the fact that you were talking about oil fields whilst the rest of us were talking about the military and Iran.

I talked about oil being the reason, and Calli replied 'where?...

First, the economic costs: According to estimates by the Costs of War project at Brown University’s Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, the war on terror has cost Americans a staggering $5.6 trillion since 2001, when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan.

$5.6 trillion. This figure includes not just the Pentagon’s war fund, but also future obligations such as social services for an ever-growing number of post-9/11 veterans.

It’s hard for most of us to even begin to grasp such an enormous number.

It means Americans spend $32 million per hour, according to a counter by the National Priorities Project at the Institute for Policy Studies.

Put another way: Since 2001, every American taxpayer has spent almost $24,000 on the wars — equal to the average down payment on a house, a new Honda Accord, or a year at a public university.