Danger man Trump strikes again

Urmstongran, it's no secret I'm not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn. However, I don't agree with you that Ben Wallace made mincemeat of JC in the parliamentary debate this afternoon. In my view, Corbyn asked the right questions and was right to suggest that the state sponsored killing of the Iranian General left people in Iraq and in Europe much less safe than were

And you think we were "safe" before he was killed? Why? He was apparently planning further attacks anyway! One less terrorist to worry about, as far as I'm concerned.

I liked the bit where Ben Wallace said to JC “I’m here representing the PM as he is busy getting on with the business of leading the country - something you will never be able to do. And it’s a shame that I’m here before you now with the experience of this department to calll upon, ready to answer any well thought out questions - yet you seem focused instead on supposedly dodgy deals with the Trump administration post- Brexit.”

I don’t believe a word that Trump or his administration utter about anything and least of all about the ‘information’ they had about threats from the General.

I'd rather believe the Americans than the Iranians!

It’s not like biological sex - it’s not a binary choice as to who to believe.

Either the General was a terrorist and was planning further atrocities, or he wasn't - that IS a binary choice, and I believe the Americans.

I have no idea what the truth is or who, if anyone, is telling it. Anyone who says different is a fool imo.

Jura2, you are right to be concerned. Liberal/conservative ideologies set aside, Trump is a SCARY, impulsive narcissist interested mostly in his own approval rating. Almost every Tweet, rally speech, and reply to the press includes a reference to it as well as overblown rhetoric designed to appeal to his base.

In 2011, he stated multiple times that Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected. Here's one statement: Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He’s weak, and he’s ineffective. So the only way he figures that he’s going to get reelected — as sure as you’re sitting there — is to start a war with Iran.

Until recently, he didn't even know who Qassem Soleimani was.

**A couple of Trump's chest-puffing Tweets:

These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have..targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD.

**Just a few of the headlines covering whole groups of professionals giving us warnings:

From 12/5/19: 350 Mental Health Professionals Warn Congress That Nuclear-Armed Trump 'A Threat to Safety of Our Nation'

From 11/19/19: Top Military Officers Unload on Trump - The commander in chief is impulsive, disdains expertise, and gets his intelligence briefings from Fox News. What does this mean for those on the front lines?

Re/ a post from above: The US will not be bombing Iran. If, and I repeat if, there are targets or people the US want to take out, it will be done by drones.

No difference. Drones drop bombs

Besides the Iranian general an Iraqi general was killed. Understandably they aren't happy about this. Can we really build friendships and allies if the US goes around killing people at whim?

Perhaps I get more regular updates on what is happening in Syria than some other posters who seem to be unaware of how many Syrian children have been killed on the orders of this man.

Minimal collateral damage. No civilians were killed.

Iranian backed militia attacked the US Embassy in Baghdad.

Callistemon neither you nor anyone else can be absolutely certain about who is responsible for all the children killed in Syria. All the participants blame each other.
The Iraquis say that Suleimon was on his way to a meeting with the Iraqi president. They have complained to the US about an attack on their soil which also killed their general. The US are certainly not being honest about things.

And you think the Iraqis and the Iranians are being honest? Seriously?

I am not saying that this act was a good idea, btw, but some posters do seem to be defending the actions of this General.

jura Like many I am so worried for the children of the world, Iran first

By Iran first one would assume you meant Iranian children were your first concern.
I wondered if you had felt the same about the Syrian women and children who have been killed and maimed by Soleimani?
They are celebrating in Idlib.

I just asked the question which arises from your statement.

Opal why does either side need believing? A bit of scepticism of both wouldn’t go amiss.

I certainly don't believe everything we are told and I do think we are being fed misinformation a lot of the time. An Iranian professor on Channel 4 news saying that the things which have been said about Aleppo and Syria are not true. Of course he would say that! But I think the US statements are equally questionable. And I don't think killing individuals on foreign soil along wiht their own citizens does anything to further international relations.

Agree trisher What I do believe I’d that Trump is simply wanting to further his re-election chances

Well Trump has achieved one thing, a new unity between Iraq and Iran.

......errrr, not quite yeahbut !

Iranian Mehr (sp?) state television has reported that 80 American personnel were killed in the air strikes.

USA yet to comment

What I heard was that President Trump tweeted that no one had been hurt by the air strikes.

Ilovecheese yes he tweeted early hours, but he has not commented on this latest announcement by the Iranians.

Trump says 'Iran has so much untapped potential' - so nothing to do with those newly discovered massive oil fields then

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