Danger man Trump strikes again

I stand corrected inkycog!
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inky.....only you would assume that a ‘they’ in a post by
Urmston meant a whole nation.
Unbelievable pedantry!

Unbelievable pedantry!

Not when you're desperate to be right! The whole world see what I did there knows that Iran hates the US but I suppose inkycog is factually correct; there could well be a few who love 'em to bits, making my statement erroneous.

I don’t think inkycog likes my posts on this topic lemon. Hence the nitpicking.

unbelievable comments and emoticons . in such a dangerous and possibly end game situation.

And our grandchildren live in fear for their lives some of you are truly sick or mad.

No one is dismissing or minimising the enormity and seriousness of what has happened in Iran jura. No one at all. This has been a discussion about the long standing enmity and distrust between the two nations. No one is in any doubt whatsoever as to the ramifications of today's actions by Trump.

You do not have 100% ownership of worry and concern for your family, your friends or the worldin general. We all know exactly what can happen jura. Thank you for your concern though.

Iran is a huge country and it has many different areas. Tehran and its people are not the entire population. On the other hand the Iranians do have a history with the Americans as I said before. If you keep interfering in a country you really can't expect them to be your biggest fans. Imagine if our monarch had been imposed by another country. If our natural resources (oil) had been hi-jacked. If the young men of a generation had been killed in a war financed by that country using chemical weapons. Would you expect us to be friendly towards that country?

Agree completely trisher. And Trump has just exacerbated further.

Chewbacca Trump reckons that Iranians hated Soleimani. Not that I've ever doubted a word Trump has ever uttered

Hmm! Not what the Iranians are saying is it growstuff? Trump's wonderful at seeing things from his own unique perspective though isn't he? he's an a**e.

jura Yes, it is terrifying, yes we are worried, yes we hope fervently that the British will maintain a sensible and measured response to this act.

However, isn't that what the British are renowned for - smile, make jokes in the face of danger, of adversity?
It stops people from collapsing, wailing, helplessness and terrifying the children.

I think Trump has seriously misjudged this.

So who's pushing fake news?

twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1212955403077767168

Meanwhile, Israel is on high alert and the US has sent an extra 3000 troops to the Middle east.

Please let's stay out of this because it's all going to end in tears.

I agree Chewbacca. I really don't have a clue, and I'm seriously wondering if Trump does either.

Rather than smiling and joking, I'd feel a tad more confident if we had a reliable Foreign Secretary and an Ambassador in the US. We might smile and joke in public, but the UK has always been a big player behind the scenes.

So Iraqis and Iranians are rejoicing - according to Trump and his acolytes.

growstuff many in both countries will be rejoicing, the countries are riven by being either Sunni or Shia.

I expect they are, but I doubt if they're the ones in control of Iran's military. I don't suppose that Trump is trying to mislead the world's media . He's such an honest man, who throws sticks of dynamite at tinderboxes for fun.

From Charles Moore in The Telegraph today:

‘The truth, which the Americans seem to understand better than we, is that the Iranian regime does not know what the word “humanitarian” means. There is no point in appealing to its better nature.

I read in The Guardian yesterday that Iran’s “half-million-strong armed services are the most potent military force the US has faced since confronting the Chinese People’s Volunteer Army more than 60 years ago in Korea”.

I don’t think so. That was a conflict in which perhaps 2.5 million people lost their lives. What the West is dealing with here is a hostile regional power that has literally got away with murder and never reciprocated any goodwill we have shown.

We have let it run rogue for too long. Mr Trump won’t thank me for saying it, but he has just struck a blow for the rules-based international order.’

I can only echo growstuff’s plea,
‘........let’s stay out of this because it’s all going to end in tears.’
And whose tears will they be? The tears of the parents, wives, husbands, and children of the armed forces on both sides who’s loved ones are killed. And the tears of the relatives of the civilians who are killed or maimed.

To be honest, I’m afraid, I’m very afraid.

I agree maddyone. I think my first comment was along the lines of pull out (having made it worse) and let them get on with their Sunni and Sh’ite wars, their medieval laws. I read yesterday that dancing in the street is forbidden in Iran. I know that’s a silly example but it demonstrates the restrictions there. Little fun because citizens are very afraid of being reported on by neighbours to the militia. No women on the streets I’ve noticed too when watching tv.

Leave them all to it I say. Unless they antagonise the West...

I wonder what we are supposed to believe. The General who was killed had struck several really important blows against Islamic State and Iran has been one of the major players in suppressing them. Iraq is very annoyed about having the killing on their territory. They could ask US troops to leave. I'm afraid Charles Moore is doing what governments and those in power have always done. assume that war and violence are some sort of a solution and not something that just escalates things.

Politics is a dirty business.

Dirty indeed - but you do realise that we are so so desperate for any Trade Deal currently - that we would be sucked into a war by force- if Trump says 'jump' - Johnson will jump - and with ourselves, and our beloved grandchildren with them.

Your 'leave them all to it' is beyond naïve or shows total incomprehension of this extremyl dangerous situation.