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Harry & Megan drop HRH Titles

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Buffybee Sat 18-Jan-20 19:40:48

I think that they have agreed to drop the HRH titles from April, as there would have been too many conditions to making money while holding the title.
They are also, apparently, going to repay the £2.4m of taxpayers money spent on Frogmore.
So, it looks like neither of them will be back to the UK very often at all.
I think that this is the right decision, do you?

merlotgran Wed 22-Jan-20 10:35:33

I wouldn't rule out the 'timed to compete' theory either.

The pap photos completely overshadowed William's official engagement.

ReadyMeals Wed 22-Jan-20 10:42:14

Luckygirl, I said myself I don't know what the intention was. I was reacting to suggestions in the media (social and mainstream) as to motives. But the best way for royals and their associates to avoid the accusations is to avoid the clashes by coordinating the news releases as was attempted once by I think the Queen's secretary?

Nezumi65 Wed 22-Jan-20 11:01:24

I agree, annsixty. Nothing will convince me Meghan didn't know a camera was there

Why? It’s clearly taken with a long lens. If they really pre-arranged it would they be risking their warning (& subsequent disclosure).

Your assumption is based on nothing more than a dislike of someone you have never met and know nothing about.

MawB Wed 22-Jan-20 11:19:12

Instead of threatening legal action on the very first day of their new life together they should have taken the 'accept and move on' approach.
All they have done is attract more attention

I agree Merlot - I believe this was a public park and “celebrities “ sometimes have to put up with the public in a public place.
If H &M could learn to “accept and move on”, they might stand a better chance of getting the media on side, the way the RF did when William was at St Andrews

What is of more concern is the fact that if that had been a long range weapon, the police protection would have been ineffectual.

JenniferEccles Wed 22-Jan-20 11:51:01

I am certain that despite their insistence of wanting to escape the media, H and M will not want to be forgotten.

I suspect we will see many selected pictures of, particularly M visiting many worthy causes.

Lesley60 Wed 22-Jan-20 11:59:22

If they want to be normal and earn their own money why don’t they drop the Duke and Duchesses titles, or maybe they won’t feel so bankable without those.
No normal people have titles so they don’t want to be as normal as us after all.

Luckygirl Wed 22-Jan-20 12:01:32

Indeed I do not know this woman and cannot read her mind! Which is why I do not claim to know what she is thinking - and certainly have no desire to impute negative implications about things I know nothing about!!!

Luckygirl Wed 22-Jan-20 12:04:41

How can they coordinate press releases when they did not release the pics?

It is beyond belief that people are clamouring to castigate and denigrate one of PC's DILs on no evidence, whilst at the same time praising his other DIL and assuming her good motives.

The psychology of this campaign to slur MM is really terrifying. It would seem that anything goes.

Anniebach Wed 22-Jan-20 12:05:30

There has been several ‘timed to compete’

William and Kate arrive in Pakistan , meet the PM and visit
the cancer hospital he founded in memory of his mother .

M & H give a tv interview about his grief and her ‘they didn’t
ask if I was OK’, plus their announcement they would sue the
Mail.

William’s first time host of an official banquet at Bucking Palace, same evening Harry makes a speech to camera of his
heartbreak that he didn’t get all he wanted.

Photographs in the press next morning ? Not the official banquet but Megan walking in a public place with baby, two
dogs, two bodyguards and smiling to , in my opinion, camera.
Followed by announcement they would make an official complaint.

With a nanny and other staff was there need to walk the baby and two dogs at the same time?

merlotgran Wed 22-Jan-20 12:07:43

Your assumption is based on nothing more than a dislike of someone you have never met and know nothing about.

No! My assumption is based on the way she is behaving.

Anniebach Wed 22-Jan-20 12:11:48

Same for me merlot , it is their actions and interviews which
cause me to doubt them.

trisher Wed 22-Jan-20 12:12:09

merlotgran do you never smile then apart from when there is a camera around?

merlotgran Wed 22-Jan-20 12:17:54

As Maw said, It's a public park so any celeb is at risk of being photographed. It doesn't have to be a pap taking the pics.

The Cambridges ride their bikes in Sandringham woods and are often spotted by walkers but nobody has felt the need to send pics to the DM because they respect their privacy.

Meghan's privacy might have been respected had she not courted criticism in recent months. They are hot news now.

Luckygirl Wed 22-Jan-20 12:18:55

There is a difference between making time connections between events and assuming that one lot of pics etc. are from some evil person who is trying to upstage someone - it could just as easily be the other way round! You do not know!

And in the absence of knowledge it is absolutely unacceptable to make assumptions and use those to denigrate someone.

Surely in your everyday life you do not pick up some negative rumour about someone and spread it and embellish it just for the hell of it. I cannot believe that Gransnetters would do this. But in this case it is seen as OK.

merlotgran Wed 22-Jan-20 12:21:55

do you never smile then apart from when there is a camera around

Maybe - but I doubt I'd look as beatific. grin

I don't believe it was just random smiling. Meghan is an actress and knows how to project her expressions.

Nezumi65 Wed 22-Jan-20 12:24:53

She’s walking and smiling. How is that even behaviour to draw any conclusions from? She may have been talking to Archie or the dogs. It’s taken on such a long lens she may have been talking to someone out of the camera shot.

lucywinter Wed 22-Jan-20 12:43:59

Surely, if you had two blokes walking behind you, you'd chat to them. Would be unnatural not to.

pinkquartz Wed 22-Jan-20 12:51:12

eye contact with the camera lens....

Anniebach Wed 22-Jan-20 12:54:04

Luckygirl it’s unfair to use ‘evil person’, no one has said they
are evil. In my opinion they are playing the media and this
troubles me, Diana played the media with horrific results.

All those weeks they were together in Canada, not one
photograph, suddenly- a baby, two dogs, two security guards
and beaming at no one ? It does cause suspiciousness for some.

ReadyMeals Wed 22-Jan-20 12:54:11

Luckygirl, not talking about the paparazzi shots on the dog walk. Talking about Meghan releasing pics of a charity visit she made 2 weeks ago, releasing the pics the same day that Kate did an appearance at a charity. People have been wondering if Meghan held them back for 2 weeks waiting for a day she could clash with Kate lol. I was saying if the actual intended photos and visits were coordinated, they could be timed not to clash. I think you've not been understanding my posts, or maybe skim-reading which is fairly understandable with these long threads

Sparklefizz Wed 22-Jan-20 12:57:42

M is trying to steal Kate's thunder again with the latest clash of photos. M's photos at the dog rescue centre were taken 2 weeks ago. Why release them today?

trisher Wed 22-Jan-20 12:59:39

Talking to securitymen is not done it distracts them from their job.

merlotgran Wed 22-Jan-20 13:03:55

Nobody is talking on the video clip other than one of the security men talking into his phone.

Anniebach Wed 22-Jan-20 13:05:31

I have just read - they released photographs of a visit to a dog
rescue two weeks ago , as Kate starts a nationwide campaign
to improve understanding of early childhood.

Thank you Sparkle

MerylStreep Wed 22-Jan-20 13:12:26

Sparkii
Time for yet another name change