Harry & Megan drop HRH Titles

Luckygirl, I said myself I don't know what the intention was. I was reacting to suggestions in the media (social and mainstream) as to motives. But the best way for royals and their associates to avoid the accusations is to avoid the clashes by coordinating the news releases as was attempted once by I think the Queen's secretary?

I wouldn't rule out the 'timed to compete' theory either.

The pap photos completely overshadowed William's official engagement.

See I wasn't being horrible. It's true some grumpy GNers don't walk along smiling simply because it's a lovely day and a wonderful world. They only smile on camera.
They should try just smiling, Sometimes people just smile back and everyone feels better.

You do not know this woman and have no idea what is in her mind!!

With respect, Luckygirl, neither do you.

There didn't need to be a fuss about the photographs. Meghan must have either known or guessed there was somebody there. She looked happy and relaxed.

Instead of threatening legal action on the very first day of their new life together they should have taken the 'accept and move on' approach.

All they have done is attract more attention.

"timed to compete" - heaven preserve us! Where did that idea come from?!

This is just persecution! Is there anything at all she can do right? You do not know this woman and have no idea what is in her mind!!

Apparently today H&M released 2-week old pictures of a visit to a London charity that look as though the release could have been timed to compete with a visit made by Kate. I obviously don't have inside info about the motives or whether it was deliberate, but it hands ammunition to those who would want to accuse, and is therefore a bit clumsy. That was the one benefit of the proposed (but abandoned) move to coordinate all the royal offices.

I agree, annsixty. Nothing will convince me Meghan didn't know a camera was there.

And if she had not smiled? If she had scowled and been photographed telling the snappers to take a hike?

That would have drawn criticism - her smile drew criticism.
What can she do? People are just determined to twist her every move into an excuse to lay into her.

If it had been Kate, people would have been posting on here saying how gracious she was in spite of the intrusion.

In my opinion, I must insist on that, there is no way she didn’t know those photographs were being taken.
She was smiling right into the camera.
I find nothing wrong with that.
She looked very relaxed and happy.

If they are left in peace they won't earn any money.

I honestly don't think they want to be 'left in peace'

They will be ever present with their good causes

Which is fine

The press interest in H&M won't go away for a while , I think it's because they have just arrived in Vancouver that the press are hiding with their long lenses eager to snap them but hopefully that level of interest will soon die down and they will be left in peace, as they wanted.

I read that. God knows why they can’t be left alone. All for a picture which will be used to say she’s carrying her baby wrong or smiling too much or something equally ridiculous.

If they manage to lie low for a while I guess the press will eventually decide it’s not worth it (not enough chance of capturing a photo to bring in the ££££’s)

They might have cleared off Luckygirl but apparently there is no hiding place.
It was reported on the BBC news that the paparazzi are hiding in the bushes around their Canadian house with long distance lenses so as to be able to see into the house.

I know what I would like to say about these vultures but it would be deleted.

I think these threads on this forum are a part of the harassment that has led to H & M clearing off.

It is interesting to look at in terms of Transactional Analysis, with the public as the child and Meghan as the mother - we have high expectations of our mothers and when they let us down we can be very angry. This is what comes of seeking icons tom put on pedestals.

Curly you can’t post under different usernames simultaneously - well not legitimately you can’t and we are three different posters. If anyone is suggesting otherwise they should report their suspicions to HA.

On this thread we have personal attacks both between the posters and towards a young mother and her child. It is harassment, pure and simple. Does no-one actually care about this family's feelings?

By this family's feelings, do you mean H&M?

Or am I totally losing the plot?

I doubt very much that Meghan and Harry will be reading this forum

That said, we will remove posts we believe to be obscene, racist, homophobic, contain personal attacks or break the law once they are brought to our attention.

Where are you HQ?

On this thread we have personal attacks both between the posters and towards a young mother and her child. It is harassment, pure and simple. Does no-one actually care about this family's feelings?

I think Gransnet need to start a section called Boxing Ring then people who need to conclude a personal argument can finish it off there

No.

Sorry, getting a little confused here - being relatively new to GN and not completely sure of the rules - are sparkii, suziewoozie and Nezumi65 all the same person?

sparkii I have become immune to the remarks made to me by Annie and refuse to engage with her. The Maxwell jibe didn't bother me. It's a bit sad that when real child abuse has been covered up and perpetrators protected by the hierarchy my request for female solidarity for one young woman should be met with such a response. But there you are some women just don't like other women.

Just read the remarks under the utube link. My God, they are much harsher than on GN. They say she is carrying a doll

Don’t venture onto the daily mail articles about her pregnancy - a huge number of weirdos on there were convinced she was wearing a fake bump & the baby has been born by a surrogate. It was when I saw that I realise why they have buggered off. Good luck to them.

Agree Callistemon, I think the coverage we get on the royals is fine, we see them on engagements, and we see and share in their important moments such as weddings, Christenings, birthdays (some of them) and so on. We feel we have a ‘share’ in them, but of course, just like everyone else, they need and deserve a private life. I don’t have a problem with the quick view of mother and baby when a new royal is born, it’s only the more prominent newborns that are shown in that way, and anyway, it’s a few minutes and the parents are probably proud of their new baby and happy to show us a little glimpse. After Catherine did that, she disappeared for weeks on end, quite rightly, to care for her baby and recover from childbirth.

Just read the remarks under the utube link. My God, they are much harsher than on GN. They say she is carrying a doll! Can't agree with that.