INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Exactly Chestnut ??
If GGM3 thinks it is a ‘nasty thread* then her various nasty posts to others on here have helped make it so.

Actually 99% is incorrect 99.9% more like it.

Have a look at the photo you posted Chestnut. It was all old white people. I have looked at a lot of media about last night and 99% of the crowd was white and the majority were old. You cannot call that racism. It’s demographics.

I wonder why people of colour did not go out and party in the same numbers as old white people?

GracesGranMK3 sadly I don't think the word "reflect" is in Chestnut's vocabulary. Just going on being rude and nasty about those who don't share her views certainly seems to be though.
Unbelievable. You have been exceptionally rude and nasty towards people who don't share your views. ?
I simply pointed out that these are the people who came out to celebrate, what is rude and nasty about that? Nezumi65 was imo attempting to be derogatory in calling them 'old and white'. Had someone used the term 'old and black' in another context then you would be the first person to jump on them for being racist. ?

I'm not sure "where will our fruit and vegetables come from?" counts as someone saying "the end of the world is nigh" Sarahellenwhitney That seems quite an extreme view for you to take.

On the other hand, if the young man was on a very low income and can see the price of such things going out of his reach, he may feel the end of his world as he knows it is nigh.

Was he talking about food rotting in the fields sarahellenwhitney? That is a genuine concern as farmers have already struggled to recruit labour to pick fruit this year (they rely on cheap migrant labour from Eastern Europe which with the crashing pound has upped and left to go to Germany where they earn more, presumably they’ll be gone further).

Talking to local farmers they are genuinely worried about how food will get picked as their feeling is the locals will not do it. Maybe we’ll get an influx of young strapping Australians on gap years. If the farmers are right and recruitment does turn out to be the issue they fear then I suspect it will lead to increased mechanisation of farming.

Will watch with interest.

Couple of glasses of our best Scottish malt in solidarity- then bed. For the metamorphosis to happen - turning from a Remainer into a Rejoiner- there are 10s of 1000s of us- and there will be many more when it all falls to pieces and Johnson, Farage and ERG will be seen for what they are- liars and fraudsters.

Indeed -

I'd rather go with the Independent's description of the event than the DM's, for sure.

'Parliament Square was a knucle-dragging carnival of irredeemable stupidity' - sums it up perfectly.

LadyGracie
I find it sad there are those who see the end of the world is nigh on leaving the EU. My local news channel were interviewing people of various ages their views on leaving My thoughts were 'spare us' ' on hearing one young man, voice his concerns to the presenter 'where will our fruit and vegetables come from ?'

Nezumi, sadly I don't think the word "reflect" is in Chestnut's vocabulary. Just going on being rude and nasty about those who don't share her views certainly seems to be though.

Nothing has changed. This was started as a nasty thread and is still a nasty thread.

These are the people who bothered to turn out and celebrate,

I think you have just given a prime example of what I have described above.

Common Sense Party.

Isn't it strange when someone comes out with this epithet it is always given to those whose views agree with the writer's views?

These are the people who are so lacking in commonsense themselves that they don't even see how rude and antagonistic they are being - or they just have no manners per se. You can bet your bottom dollar they will criticise others for what they think are bad manners though. It's almost as if the small majority and the wheeler-dealing that have taken us out of the EU makes them believe they now have a right not only to judge others - they have always done that - but to rule others thoughts and feelings.

I have a feeling some, should they live long enough, will come down to earth with a bump. They are no more special than anyone else.

Old white flag wavers was descriptive. Look at the picture you posted. It as full of old white people waving flags.

Chestnut - do you ever reflect on WHY people of colour may not be flocking to Brexit parties?

Nezumi65 - we cannot dictate who comes to the party and who doesn't. These are the people who bothered to turn out and celebrate, sorry if they are not the right colour for you. Calling them 'old white flag wavers' is both ageist and racist! ?

I’m resisting the urge to post vox pop snippets from last night because a) I loathe vox pop and b) I think there is something really distasteful about displaying someone’s ignorance to the whole of the UK (yes BBC I am talking to you), but the crowd yesterday was not diverse & was not representative of a UK I could be proud of.

He criticises others for offering generalised characterisations having just described "patronising patricians trying to subvert the democratic process because they knew better than us poorly educated plebs what was good for us."

Do I believe there are such people? Yes but not all the remain voters fit that category by any means. Just the same as there are, among the "less educated" some with a chip on their shoulder that can never be irradicated. So what? How about looking at the facts instead of characterising whole swaths of people. It does look as if Humphries, as an individual, wears that characterisation perfectly, however.

One token black person.

Any more?

Nezumi65 That photo looks largely old and white. Any photos showing the great diversity of modern day UK?
As requested.

Some photos are just too far away to see people clearly.

And that in summary is my issue with Brexit. Old, white, flag-wavers.

A Britain with a large populist movement is not one I can be proud of.

Thank you for alerting me to John Humphrys 'article in the Daily Mail.
Clearly a member of the Common Sense Party.
Now that Sarah Sands has left 'Today' perhaps he will be invited back occasionally.

That photo looks largely old and white. Any photos showing the great diversity of modern day UK?

How can anyone take John Humphries as an "unbiased" reporter? He is as biased as they come and I am glad the BBC got rid of the bully.

Here's the article by John Humphrys

Why do Brexit post become so aggressive?

Because two halves of the country fundamentally disagree and those who wanted to leave the EU are childish and nasty?