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INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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Lyndiloo Thu 30-Jan-20 04:35:37

Hurrah! We're getting OUT at last!

But it seems strange to me that there is so little talk/news on the media about this. Before the General Election everything was about Brexit. To the point that even I got sick to death of it! But it's all gone quiet since then. Are there to be no celebrations from all those who voted to leave? (Sad that Big Ben won't even mark this historic event.)

(I was talking to a young woman the other day, and she didn't even know that we were leaving the EU on Friday!)

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

I shall still open a bottle of champers and toast this great country of ours - our democracy, our integrity - and now, at last, our freedom from a corrupt and self-serving feudalistic state.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:47:38

Academia and finance also losing jobs.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:46:09

Now Freedom From Farage is an independence I could happily celebrate

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 12:41:13

Chestnut Thank you for trying, but they aren't really benefits are they?
1. We regain our democratic right to be a self governing independent nation without the burden of EU imposed laws
Personally I regarded the EU courts as a very welcome safety net which could be used by anyone who felt a country had breached their human rights. (Like the girl raped in Cyprus who could appeal to an EU court)
2. We will keep the billions of taxpayers' money we currently pay to the EU (of which we only get a proportion back).
But no one knows where that money will go. Personally I liked the EU committment to heritage, arts and culture. And didn't actually object to some being spent in other EU countries as I benefitted from better roads and good health provision.
3. As a free self governing nation once again we can return to global trade as the majority of the free world does. Unfortunately the EU was our major market -nearly gone!
Without many EU directives businesses will be freed from time wasting bureaucracy and will prosper, which will create more jobs and opportunities.
Significantly big employers are already planning to leave- Nissan etc.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:26:46

As I said GracesGranMK3 I think ananymous has gone a bit wild with excitement and is posting all sorts of crazy stuff, but no need to come down to that level yourself.

Callistemon Fri 31-Jan-20 12:24:33

DH's theory was that the BBC invited him on to these panels so that the audience could scoff at him.

Kerenhappuch Fri 31-Jan-20 12:22:42

I am hoping the BBC will declare independence from Nigel Farage and stop inviting him onto every single programme they possibly can. If Bake Off was still on the BBC he'd be one of the judges!

As he says, he's 'won', so his campaign is over and we can enjoy our FFF - Freedom From Farage!

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:18:34

It was a reply to the idea that we go back to the 70s Chestnut. Ananimous, who is either crass, clueless or deliberately contrary said:

We have peeps here that have NO idea how we carried on before the EU hahaha s'funny

As that was in the 1970s I have no idea why you see it as a feeble insult.

Callistemon Fri 31-Jan-20 12:15:43

Well, no, not on our own, but to be fair Guy Verhofstadt mentioned that which made That Lot's behaviour all the more embarrassing.

*^It's sad to see a country leaving that twice liberated us, twice gave its blood to liberate *Europe^

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:11:06

I think ananymous has become over-excited and is throwing all sorts of wild comments around ?

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:09:44

Goodness knows how we managed to liberate Europe!

Not on our own. Do you know anything about anything?

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:08:07

GracesGranMK3 - you obviously feel you are losing the argument and consequently resorting to feeble insults like 'stuck in the 1970s' ? ? ?

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 12:07:11

Hahahah You are hilarious!
Goodness knows how we managed to liberate Europe!

Stop harking back to your convenient bit of propaganda, Lol! I think you are pulling my leg, now.

Cheers! We have popped the Bolly, tata

DARE TO DREAM!

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:02:00

And I do mean how the world works now, not stuck in the 1970 as some seem to be.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:00:18

I don't see anything sour in thinking some of the comments on here are produced by those with very little comprehension of how the world works and no capacity to learn. It is blatantly obvious.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:00:08

trisher Come on then Chestnut post a few of these benefits. Long term, short term, any term, any benefit. Just saying there will be lots doesn't mean a thing.
Oh for goodness sake, haven't you learnt anything in the past four years, with all the discussion, debate, TV programmes, newspaper articles etc. on Brexit. You have obviously been closing your ears and eyes because you made up your mind long ago and won't hear anything to the contrary. In brief:

1. We regain our democratic right to be a self governing independent nation without the burden of EU imposed laws.
2. We will keep the billions of taxpayers' money we currently pay to the EU (of which we only get a proportion back).
3. As a free self governing nation once again we can return to global trade as the majority of the free world does.
4. Without many EU directives businesses will be freed from time wasting bureaucracy and will prosper, which will create more jobs and opportunities.

Having answered your question I am not going to discuss this further, I'm off to celebrate ?‍♀️ ? ?‍♀️

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 11:59:54

You seriously want to go back to the 1970s ananimous well that explains a lot!

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:57:10

We have peeps here that have NO idea how we carried on before the EU hahaha s'funny

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:56:14

Sour grapes abound apparently smile

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 11:53:10

Ah Independence! We will now I assume be entirely self sufficient, grow our own food, train and staff our NHS, staff the hospitality industry, staff seasonal agricultural work, fund heritage projects, fund the arts, fund medical research, fund university research and study abroad. Because that's what the EU was doing for us. But now we are Independent!

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:48:35

ananimous - I assume you are stirring rather than actually as stupid as your posts would suggest so will bow out of trying to explain.

Last ditch attempt for people who are genuinely interested in the impact of Brexit on research funding. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50044659

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:44:57

Okay. Stupidity and lack of knowledge are now showing because people think it is "clever". Add to that all the personal insults and who would want to be associated with a "leavers" party for heaven's sake.

I hope this drops of this list shortly.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:42:45

You really do seem to be a summary of the statistics on leave voters ananimous

The best benefit is: we have INDEPENDANCE now, hurrah!

So do tell how will this change our politics, constitution, territorial settlement, economy, and foreign relations? You obviously are ahead of the game and know all this. Please share.

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:37:19

Please let's keep things on topic folks, no need for spite, eh?
I'm that happy I dooooo feel a little merry, wink I must say, hip hip hooray!

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:34:32

Sorry for your friend, but as she is Japanese, can she not get a grant from Japan?

This EU funding is our money, being given back to us, you do understand that?

Living in japan for 20 years gives me no rights either...

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:44

Is this Bitchit Day?