INDEPENDENCE DAY!

In what way will it ‘all come alright’?

Erasmus has gone - impacting on many young people. Freedom of movement has gone. Science funding has gone. My business will close this year (affecting hardly anyone but me & my clients - and it will impact on them as no-one else anywhere else in the world does what I do), jobs are going - a Japanese friend has already had to move to Germany to keep her job because the project she is working on is a big joint EU project and the UK is now out of that - already - how many more will there be?

So yeah I shall be relieved if my son’s meds supply is not affected but that won’t mean everything is ‘alright’. The sky may not fall in but for many their future opportunities have already been taken away.

I guess today confirms it’s time for the kids to embrace their heritage & order their Irish passports.

What a great day for Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch and Crispin Odey to celebrate the damage they have done and the opportunity to profit at our expense.

Oh dear, so many horrible insults for me after posting this! I do think that here, we should at least be polite to one another!

I voted to leave the EU and No! I am not 'nose-rubbing' or 'gloating', simply celebrating my chosen outcome. (As would all of you 'Remainers' be - given half a chance!)

growstuff and vegansrock I'm moderately well-educated and do know what 'feudalistic' means, actually. Do you?

And no, I did not consult my family before voting to leave the EU. (And they did not consult me before making up their minds.) I voted for what I thought was best for our country and for all of our people.

There is no need to denigrate people just because they do not agree with you. (That's a form of bullying, isn't it?)

And Yes!, I shall be drinking French champagne tomorrow night. (Because it's the best!) And I'll spare a little toast for all of the disappointed and concerned 'Remainers'. (It'll all come right - you'll see!)

an influx of unskilled workers to Sydney or Melbourne
there is a continual need for farm workers or for those to fulfil the other jobs that Australians do not want to do.
However, the visas are short-term and a condition of obtaining another year is to do a specified time doing farm work.

I understood that Australia is keen on an enhanced trade deal with us, their 8th largest trading partner, but do not want visa free movement to be part of that deal.

I won’t celebrate - I’m going to close my business soon (sometime this year), it’s too difficult to run after Brexit.

Am just hoping that the meds supply isn’t too affected - depends a lot of whether we get a trade deal. My son has epilepsy and official govt advice is to brand swap. Dangerous advice form most epilepsy meds

Before someone picks me up on it, it might not have been his face but he was spat at. It was in The Guardian....

Michael Morpurgo had someone spit in his face for wearing an anti Brexit badge....

Pippa, with respect, that comment to Grandad1943 was not very nice. And ExperiencedNotOld, I am a remainer, and have never snarled or spit, not my style at all.

And if you have read any of my previous posts on this subject, you will know that in my opinion, leaving the EU is not the best thing for the UK.

ananimous, David Cameron wanted reforms that would only benefit the U.K., that is why they were rejected by the EU. I am talking about reforms that would have benefited the whole of the EU and, in turn, the whole world e.g. fair trading, no corruption, peaceful coexistence, concern for the climate. We could have made this world a better place for all instead of just thinking about what is best for the U.K.

You missed a bit, JE. ^ and an influx of unskilled British workers to Sydney and Melbourne.^

They don't want our Brexit jobless... ?

I read the link about Australia and what it actually said was that they weren’t keen on free movement of people between our countries because they feared that highly skilled Australians would want to come here to live and work.

What does that tell us about how they see the future of our country post Brexit?

What a nasty rude post from Pippa.

In answer to when will we stop paying the EU, very probably never and we also lose out by not having a say. Unless we get a good deal with the EU prices will rise JenniferE, I will wait for you to start complaining when it does.

Happy days ahead, ha ha

Why do people get so nasty? On a forum like this what difference will it make to anything, anything at all? To spend your remainer life snarling and spitting whenever leaving Europe is mentioned? The only thing that does result is you living in a perpetual state of ill grace, hardly good for a good and balanced life.
My list of people never to get stuck in a virtual lift with is growing....

Well it's never easy, is it.
I'm entirely relieved to see Brexit go through, as I was extremely worried that the winning voters would riot if their vote was ignored. And that IS scarey to me!

I've lived through a lot worse than this. No financial disaster as has oft been predicted. Yawn. A whole load of nothing so far.

We already trade with Australia but the farmers have found other markets for their meat and other produce.

They have Callistemon and interesting they have gone to nearer neighbours for those markets generally.

My life will change in many very significant ways when we leave the EU. Far too many and personal to divulge here, but believe me a few sparklers are not going to make me feel good about any of it.

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Bossyrossy you missed one. LadyGracie obviously doesn't mind either if many/most of the young people who have paid more into our exchequer than they have taken out leave.

Their taxes have allowed our pensions to stay comparatively high by comparison to other benefits but obviously, some do not mind if that comes to an end.

I see the idiotic scaremongering hasn’t gone away.

What evidence do you have that it's idiotic scaremongering JenniferEccles? The OP is evidence that the neandertal "we won" hasn't gone away and I also see the uneducated catchphrases haven't either.

For as long as someone sets these threads up the answers will stay the same. It's really up to you and those who share your views.

Yes, I can't imagine anyone needing new customers anywhere else in the world

They were the founding nation of the Commonwealth.
One of them.
Australia is a different country today.

We already trade with Australia but the farmers have found other markets for their meat and other produce.

No, its better this way, I think. We have so much to feel good about.


Happy Independence day-eve!