INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Why on earth should we Urmstongran? If it felt to you that we were celebrating bringing our country down wouldn't you say something?

It seems that even the OP found her celebrations limited by the feeling others might find them offensive and chose not to rub their noses in it but it didn't stop certain people did it?

For goodness sake, why don't some of the leavers give it a rest. We don't want your sympathy because as you say we lost. We just want some understanding from you that we view leaving completely different to you. Time will tell who was right and who was wrong and we will continue to do and enjoy what we did before

Totally agree Barmeyoldbat.

I think this thread was just a ‘virtual’ party no harm intended. A chance for us Leavers to celebrate and mark the occasion. Which is of course momentous.

Obviously as has been pointed out, joyous threads can’t be proscribed only for those of the same political viewpoint but if nothing else, those who are not wanting to join in could - dare I say it - swerve the thread instead of jumping in!

? Hilarious!

So I did. However, it was only to make the point that I have been reading your posts for what seems like a very long time. It seems I unintentionally touched on a sore point of yours.

Are you now going to admit I was never called your dreamed up names? I won't wait.

Who said there is nothing to look forward too? I do not believe there will be the new age of global conquest that makes the Brexiteers shout tally-ho and leap on their horses (or flash cars) for, and morality will not revert to 1950 levels as some would like so they no longer have to think and reflect about how rude they think they can be to others just because they are English. After all, this was a very English Brixit.

I also don't believe we will be so afraid of the crisis we are moving towards we will rejoin the EU. I imagine while the third-world countries, with their young population many of whom have the core characteristics of successful immigrants, will overtake us as we go into a slow decline. I take great heart that this will annoy the racists among the brexiteers and that I will not be here to see the decline and that my family have the skills to move to where they can have a good life - as two-thirds of them have already done.

But I do worry about some of you.

For goodness sake, why don't some of the leavers give it a rest. We don't want your sympathy because as you say we lost. We just want some understanding from you that we view leaving completely different to you. Time will tell who was right and who was wrong and we will continue to do and enjoy what we did before.

Yes, you are right about fora not representing reality Experience ?Which is why some posters were astounded that the LP did so terribly at the GE, when most of what they read on social media assured them Corbyn would win easily....it’s a bubble.

I think we will have a little truthfulness on here about posts GGM3 as you appear to have a very selective memory.
You brought up the subject of ‘previous incarnations’ for no reason at all in your post 16:41:06

Further to that, I really do feel sorry for posters who feel there is nothing to look forward to......all because we have left the EU.

Such fuss and bother. What are you achieving by being so argumentative? All that’s happening is that you’re winding yourself up as the opinion of the person on the other end matters nothing to you in reality. Yes, reality, the one thing these fora don’t represent.

Come on GNers Isn’t it time all this bad feeling and vitriol stopped. Remainers are obviously licking their wounds and leavers (not all I might add) are gloating. Surely we should all of us be trying to come together despite our own personal views. Where on earth is falling out going to get us? Like it or not we are out of the EU. Deal with it!

Good grief, you complain about nastiness! I am shocked by the level of vitriol in these personal attacks you make.

Just as I am often shocked by your posts Chestnut. That, as I said above, is a very big problem and one that will not be solved by leaving or remaining in the EU. It appears that GNHQ has decided personal attacks are okay. Someone explained this to me at the very beginning of this thread.

I realise you don't think you were GrannyGravy13. You feel being tribal in your comments is okay. I find it insulting. I actually found the OP pretty insulting too. It looks as if the one thing the leaver/remainer split has shown is that we have groups of people working under very different cultures, each of them criticising the other for theirs.

That is a sensible post Caro and well said. ?

GracesGranMK3 all I need to do is read your posts to understand what self-serving smug satisfaction is.
Good grief, you complain about nastiness! I am shocked by the level of vitriol in these personal attacks you make. ?

Lemongrove I would have no reason to call myself "Graces", that would be weird. The fact that you think you know better than I do what I have called myself speaks volumes.

I don't think I did bring up user names either. You did. I wasn't mentioned before this post I have only had two ‘incarnations’ GGM3 whereas you have had four! as far as I can see.

Apropos of nothing that went before as far as I can see.

Since voting is confidential and a personal choice, why would you consult anyone as to how you would vote? It is private for the very reasons that people are divided over now. You are better off keeping your vote private.

GGMK3, I was not criticising anyone, just my opinion on the way this thread has evolved.

Well said Caro ???

Nor did I hide either, or change my writing style, and when some posters missed me I told them of the name change, made btw for personal reasons as I had divulged something on a thread that could have identified me.
Now, you have brought up the subject of user names, for no good reason at all, other than to try and insult.
Scraping the barrel indeed.

Chestnut I did find it amusing that the Reasons For Leaving was written by someone who claimed he had "worked for many European Governments"! Well not any more! And he has slammed the door shut for everyone else.
The reasons were based on some very dodgy ideas such as the EU being responsible for the stagnation of trade in Europe- nothing to do with the growth of places like China then????

Well I am glad it is finally done, even though it was not the outcome I wanted. Despite different views and opinions we now all need to pull together as a country to make leaving the EU as successful as possible, no matter how galling some of us think of it. If we don’t pull together we all suffer.

You were just Graces first I believe, then GGM1 etc......not that it matters a jot, ‘twas you who brought the subject up for no reason at all.

Can you read numbers lemongrove. How do you turn 3 into 4. Each time I went off to do other things and took a break I came back with the same name. I did not try to hide behind a change so that I could get the knife in before anyone recognised me as you did.

I have only had two ‘incarnations’ GGM3 whereas you have had four!?
Your post is the epitome of bitterness btw.

This really is just another thread for those who were against leaving the EU to insult anyone who voted to leave.

And what is that but you insulting anyone who voted to remain? Know yourself before you start criticising other GG13.

It’s been that way for three years, high time for things to settle down ( at last!)