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Here's an opportunity for all the Leavers

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MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 10:20:53

I see that Sajid Javiv intends to launch a 'Brexit Red Tape Challenge' with his budget He intends to invite the public to suggest ways in which Britian might diverge from the EU rule book according to the Financial Times.

So here's your chance to get your thinking caps on and let the Chancellor know what particularly irks you about EU rules.

Do share your thoughts with us because many Remainers are curious to know what red tape turned you against the EU...

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 19:08:18

I regret, Ug, that I didn't understand a word of your response.

What exactly were you objecting to?

varian Thu 06-Feb-20 19:12:11

Chestnut posted this silly list, lifted from the pages of The Express, which is not a newspaper but a propaganda instrument and has been since the 1930s.

"Well here's a few of the ridiculous:
No bendy bananas (2009)
Illegal for Stilton cheese to be made in Stilton (2013)
Illegal for drink manufacturers to claim water hydrates you or that prunes are a laxative (2011)
UK not allowed to scrap the tampon tax
Fishing quotas - throwing back dead fish into the sea!
LED lighting replacing halogen even though there is evidence it damages your eyesight.
Imperial weights and measures banned (2010)"

I am really disappointed . This is scraping the bottom of tbe barrel.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:23:23

I'm just glad that Juncker &Co has no sway over us anymore - Disgusted still with the footage of Juncker staggering about (Tired & Emotional) being supported by several people, ruffling a womans hair, slapping people in "good humour" (do check it out).

As for Tusk, Macron, Merkel and Verasstead - So glad we just trade with these bullies going forward.

I voted remain, I'm ashamed to say I fell for the avalanche of bllsht, but, would have voted leave if the 2nd referendum had been undemocratically arranged.
Thankfully the British democratic vote prevailed and our nation has won liberty.

LONG LIVE LIBERTY!

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:27:22

www.google.com/search?q=juncker+drunk+animated+gifs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjE7-DF073nAhVQIRoKHTlyChIQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=juncker+drunk+animated+gifs&gs_l=img.3...2653.6202..8549...0.0..0.135.1036.13j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.Y04GGQXKEGE&ei=62c8XoTOOtDCaLnkqZAB&bih=852&biw=1745#imgrc=BJhUHNp2hBkP6M&imgdii=AUsuFBjuJWoT2M

Juncker ruffles a woman's hair

vampirequeen Thu 06-Feb-20 19:28:44

I know someone who voted leave because 'they make us have green broccoli.' She couldn't remember what colour broccoli used to be but she knew it was different when it was British.

I never mentioned minimum wage on my list btw but I'd like to add:
The CE rules. Who needs safe electronics, electrical goods, gas heaters/boilers or toys for children.? Bring back lead paint. We survived it.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:31:12

AlltheLs
I’m no fan of European regulations but I think you’ll find there was quiet a lot under subsidy that benefitted the environment and wild life. Do you farm ? We do.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:31:34

Oops quite not quiet.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:32:17

Then I forgot the link! Twice!!
ec.europa.eu/environment/nature/rbaps/index_en.htm

Oopsminty Thu 06-Feb-20 19:33:59

I dont like their live animal transportation.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:34:39

vampirequeen

British kite mark? (1903)

If the subsidy is not flimflam you should be able to get it from our British gov.

We do not need management.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:38:58

I've never met a poor lawyer, or farmer.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:39:40

Experiencednotold So I think you will be alright.

Jabberwok Thu 06-Feb-20 19:45:05

Fishing in particular, and the horrible treatment of Greece (Scotland beware!)

GracesGranMK3 Thu 06-Feb-20 19:52:38

Oh UG, that's beneath you. If you can't find a decent argument you go for a fallacious one. Dear, oh dear.

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 20:05:32

A lot of the things being cited aren't EU regulations. Sajid wants to know what EU rules you don't like.

Sadly, some of the 'rules' being mentioned aren't EU rules st all.

For a start, Stilton cheese was never made at Stilton. I have a history of Stilton cheesemaking which confirms this. It was called 'Stilton' because it was sold at Stilton, which was a staging point on the Great North Road with which the cheese became associated. The staging inns bought in the cheese from outlying areas.

Keep them coming, folks...

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 20:10:32

ananimous not our profit though, manager not owner! The saying around these parts is “you never see a farmer riding a bicycle”. Apparently that replaced “you never see a farmer with worn boots” (as he could afford a horse).

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 20:22:30

The EU army?

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 20:23:22

Plus they have kidnapped The island of Ireland grin

Joelsnan Thu 06-Feb-20 20:46:53

EU Public Procurement Directive 2014
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/560261/Brief_Guide_to_the_2014_Directives_Oct_16.pdf

Which opened up the bidding process for procurement over a certain value (unless it posed a security threat) to the whole of the EU and countries that had trade deals with EU.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 21:36:25

There is no EU army. There is the NATO agreement, deployment as a UN force and a further accordance between various countries with our individual force elements.

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 22:06:02

I'm not sure what your problem is with that 'rule', Joelsnan. The UK seemed to be rather keen on it:

The new rules support UK Government priorities of economic growth and deficit reduction by making the public procurement process faster, less costly, and more effective for business and procurers alike. They represent an excellent outcome from the UK’s extensive negotiations in Brussels.

4.4 These changes provide a much more modern, flexible and commercial approach compared to the existing regime. Outdated and superfluous constraints have been removed, and many new features have been added to streamline and modernise public procurement. For contracting authorities, this means being able to run procurement exercises faster, with less red tape, and more focus on getting the right supplier and the best tender. And for suppliers, the process of bidding for public contracts should be quicker, less costly, and less bureaucratic, enabling suppliers to compete more effectively.

Chestnut Thu 06-Feb-20 23:28:24

MaizieD For a start, Stilton cheese was never made at Stilton. I have a history of Stilton cheesemaking which confirms this. It was called 'Stilton' because it was sold at Stilton, which was a staging point on the Great North Road with which the cheese became associated. The staging inns bought in the cheese from outlying areas.
Let's get our facts straight. This has just been on TV and they said that Stilton cheese was first made in Stilton in 1722. Daniel Defoe also mentioned the cheese of Stilton town in 1724. It was first marketed in the 1830s at the Bell Inn, a staging inn as stated above.

MaizieD Fri 07-Feb-20 08:20:15

I'll take my historian of stilton cheese production's authority over Daniel Defoe's, Chestnut. There was no cheese making at Stilton. Defoe just repeated what he was told, or guessed.

growstuff Fri 07-Feb-20 09:29:25

Apparently there is some dispute about whether Stilton cheese was ever made in Stilton. Whatever the truth, it was Defra's decision to refuse permission for cheese made in Stilton to be called Stilton.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-28343644

growstuff Fri 07-Feb-20 09:30:04

I'm all for getting our facts straight!