Phillip Scofield Why all the Fuss

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tickingbird show me where I said PS was a role model - I damn well never ever did. Lea4n the difference between an A and an S

I’m waiting

Callistemon The discussion was about referring to a man having a relationship with a younger person as a"dirty old man" apparently women who have such relationships are not "dirty old women" but just lucky. No mention of another relationship.

By that reasoning Prince Andrew is a fine upstanding citizen. Afterall, he wasn’t cheating on his spouse but there’s been much gnashing of teeth on this forum regarding him and a 17 yr old female. Is it only ok if you’re gay?

Isn't it all a bit like the Prince Andrew situation? If PA slept with a woman who was over the legal age limit in the country they were in, that is not against the law. But if it were proved that she had been groomed, and he knew, I am not sure whether he would face charges. I assume so, in the USA. I am sure he won't go there in the near future.

With PS I have read some reports (these are only rumours) that he was "mentoring" this boy from a young age. Under age of consent.

I am not sure what to believe. When you find someone has been deceitful about one thing, it makes you doubt everything they say. Now all sorts of people are speaking up, and things that "media people" knew for years, are now becoming public. I agree it's all a bit sordid.

Seems so tickingbird

I always liked Ruth and Eamon with their banter

The only thing I find totally annoying is.... The brave man/what a brave man/he was so brave, etc etc

HE WASNT BRAVE he decided to come out, cos it suited him‽

Why after all these years... What's the real agenda here?

I heard Ruth was about to go complain about HIS bullying... Not sure if true (either!)

Maybe he got caught cottaging.... Hahahaha (look it up!)

This is not the 80s/90s, where being an outed gay was a brave move. He and his wife, decided to keep shtum ... Possibly to further his carer? Maybe. Back then when he started in the broom-cupboard with his hand up gordon, he knew he wouldn't have gotten the job if he was openly gay, and some of the other gigs he got.

There's definitely a reason why he chose to "come out" now.

Whatever his reasons... I don't care! No really I don't, even before he "outted" himself, I knew he was very camp, to say the least, I'd even say there are very few people ACTUALLY shocked by this.

But whatever, please stop calling him brave. It's 20 20, For god's sake, no one cares if.youre gay.

tickingbird why can’t you just admit you misread my post and on the basis of that misreading launched an attack on me that was completely without foundation? Completely without foundation.

You really can’t handle being wrong can you tickingbird ?

Or maybe John Leslie could take over? To give Phillip Scofield some time to get his sloppy story together...

Trisher the grooming is being mentioned because MM was 10 years old when they first met
and PS mentors young gay men.....and indeed got MM the Runner job at ITV.

Doesn't sound quite so innocent like that does it?

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pinkquartz if the young man in question either reports abuse or complains about how he was treated by PS I will certainly condemn that and PS. But at the moment all that is being produced is rumour and speculation and srangely enough I don't make judgements on that basis although it is obvious that some people do. That's the difference between this case and PA. The young woman involved has reported her grooming and treatment to the relevant authorities. If this young man does the same that makes it a similar case. Until then it is just gossip.

Trisher You're so keen to keep spoiling for a fight .

It was actually another person on here who suggested that an older woman with a younger man would be considered to be lucky. I simply agreed with it.

I really couldn't give a toss about any of it. Give it a rest now, luv, for goodness sake.

I said ‘lucky’ with an emoji

Trisher

yes it is gossip, but it is also clear that there is something going on as PS only outed himself because he was backed into a corner.
And I thought you might want to know why grooming was mentioned.
It wasn't like they met on a night out.
My problem with PS is only that he is full of bull and I don't buy this need to stay in the closet for decades.
I think it is not helpful to the LBGTQ+ community when men say they need to hide their sexuality

I choose not to watch anything he is on because I cannot bear him but also he is on just not progs I would not watch.

I don't think he lied to his wife. I think he and her probably have a good friendship and she was willing to be his beard.
It is not that unusual and I do not care as it does not affect me at all.
However a grown man using his position to get close to a very young person, male or female is very yucky.

Anniebach I know you did .

SalsaQueen Happy to "give it a rest" if only I knew what you were talking about. I can't see any of my recent posts are addressed to you, but if you are feeling so stressed I'm really sorry for you.

I won’t be apologising for anything suzie dear. I expect an apology from you but you’ve had my post deleted as is your wont. I admit I thought “PA” was a typo and you meant PS. Regardless, you have repeatedly poured bile and scorn on Prince Andrew on this forum, over varying threads so for you to say you would love any son of yours to be just like him etc., it’s understandable that I thought you were referring to Phillip Schofield as he is the subject of this thread.

You then called me a liar and demanded I delete my post. My youngest son is gay, doesn’t always have an easy time of it and has been struggling recently. I shouldn’t have to put this information out there but to constantly be accused of homophobia because you criticise someone who just happens to be gay or racism because the person in question may be black is very tiresome. For you to come straight back at me with “get your lying thread deleted” was out of order. To me it felt like outrage because you felt you’d lost the moral high ground. From now on I’ll do as advised and ignore you.

Trisher Me stressed? Nah. On the contrary, you seem quite an aggressive, angry person. I can't be doing with your type

Well you 4 are having fun aren't you
Put this thread to bed for goodness sake and stop fighting . The thread was Phillip Schofield why all the fuss
Just in case you cant remember ladies

Right oh tickingbird from now on you’ll decide what a poster meant to type and then lay into them on the basis of your decision about what you think they meant to type rather what they did type? Jolly good. Should make for even more fun and games. Seriously ? Have try any idea how absolutely pathetic your post sounds? Amazing isn’t it that someone other than the subject of a thread might be mentioned on a thread ???? And I have no idea what your mention of your son has to do with any of your high handedness in deciding what posters meant to type. ??

And if you’d actually bothered to read what I’d said on this thread re PS yes PS yes that’s it PS you’d see that the only points I made about him (PS that is yes PS) were that early on I thought he jumped before he was pushed and secondly that there is still homophobia in our society and I wasn’t surprised that some gay people may still want to hide it.