Phillip Scofield Why all the Fuss

I can't watch him anymore.

After all these years. It's fine that he is gay, it's the lying bit that did it for me.
I would understand it if it was 1920, and illegal.
But the children?
Did he lie every anecdote about "married" life with "Steph".
Is it brave of him? I can't say it is.
I watch other programs now. My heart goes out to his children, and wife, if she did not know before marrying him.

My gosh there's some amount of gossip being bandied about on this thread. None of us are perfect and surely we can all empathise with another human being who is in obvious pain. Philip is the one we feel we 'know' as a household name whereas we would have had no opportunity to come to know his wife/ daughters/ extended family.
Of course our hearts go out to all of them as it does to all families going through difficult times.
All heros are not climbing ladders into burning buildings or fighting killer diseases. Most are far humbler, leading ordinary lives, meeting personal challenges with incredible bravery, often with little or no support. None of us know the secret battles of another's life so we should be kinder. Never underestimate the power of a word be it spoken or written. Most of us are on this website for the comfort & support we hope to give/get to & from each other.
At the end of the day we're all just walking each other home.
Wishing the Scofield family well

doodledog

There was no obligation for PS to declare he was gay.

PS could have carried on as he was. he says he felt pressure to be honest.

I don't care about his sexuality or anyone else's but he made it look like a big deal
He made it a big deal and it seems it was because he was going to be outed as a liar.
It's not a bit odd it is all under control by his publicist and as it is all engineered for his career.

There is no pressure for anyone to declare their sexuality

Though apparently he has been very judgemental about guests on the show he presents, asking people why they have kept things hidden

The only pressure was his own

People don't get pressure to 'come out' as straight, so I don't think that there is any obligation for gay people to declare their sexuality.

In the 80s (or was it the 90s?) there was a trend for celebrities to be 'outed' using the logic that staying 'in the closet' was delaying normalisation of homosexuality. That trend stopped ages ago - maybe when Jason Donovan sued, saying that he had a right to privacy. I agree that people have this right, and should not feel that their private lives need to be made public.

As for PS and the timing of his announcement, well, time will tell. It does seem a bit odd that he's decided to talk about it after all this time, but that is his choice, and if there is scandal behind it I doubt that any pre-empting of it will make any difference. It's just not a big deal any more, and I don't think that people will be sidetracked into excusing any impropriety if that is what has happened. If it hasn't, then it will all die a death and normal business will be resumed when the next talking point comes along.

Oops. not so long ago.
There are also people who have kept girlfriends, wives, husbands, secret because that's what has kept up their image.

I'm sure it did, just as being openly bisexual (or possibly not. I have heard it was a deliberate ploy) helped David Bowie.

It was so long ago that someone out of Boyzone came out, because they had a clean cut image, as did Phillip S.

Agree pinkquartz, anyone struggling to come out could listen to Schofield and think - ‘keeping silent must have helped him in his career.

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But the more celebs that hide being gay the harder they are making it for ordinary people. Acting as if it was wrong is not good.
There is nothing wrong and it should not be hidden.
It is the people who are homophobic that should be ashamed not the gay people.

PS did jump before he was pushed.

I’m bullying no one on this thread - it was tickingbird who laid into me accusing me of ridiculous opinions and personally attacking me because SHE decided what I’d meant to write and not what I had written. She’s admitted the latter but sees nothing wrong with it.

GREYMAR
I agree but they dont seem to know how to stop

Awful bullying on here.

And if you’d actually bothered to read what I’d said on this thread re PS yes PS yes that’s it PS you’d see that the only points I made about him (PS that is yes PS) were that early on I thought he jumped before he was pushed and secondly that there is still homophobia in our society and I wasn’t surprised that some gay people may still want to hide it.

Right oh tickingbird from now on you’ll decide what a poster meant to type and then lay into them on the basis of your decision about what you think they meant to type rather what they did type? Jolly good. Should make for even more fun and games. Seriously ? Have try any idea how absolutely pathetic your post sounds? Amazing isn’t it that someone other than the subject of a thread might be mentioned on a thread ???? And I have no idea what your mention of your son has to do with any of your high handedness in deciding what posters meant to type. ??

Well you 4 are having fun aren't you
Put this thread to bed for goodness sake and stop fighting . The thread was Phillip Schofield why all the fuss
Just in case you cant remember ladies

Trisher Me stressed? Nah. On the contrary, you seem quite an aggressive, angry person. I can't be doing with your type

I won’t be apologising for anything suzie dear. I expect an apology from you but you’ve had my post deleted as is your wont. I admit I thought “PA” was a typo and you meant PS. Regardless, you have repeatedly poured bile and scorn on Prince Andrew on this forum, over varying threads so for you to say you would love any son of yours to be just like him etc., it’s understandable that I thought you were referring to Phillip Schofield as he is the subject of this thread.

You then called me a liar and demanded I delete my post. My youngest son is gay, doesn’t always have an easy time of it and has been struggling recently. I shouldn’t have to put this information out there but to constantly be accused of homophobia because you criticise someone who just happens to be gay or racism because the person in question may be black is very tiresome. For you to come straight back at me with “get your lying thread deleted” was out of order. To me it felt like outrage because you felt you’d lost the moral high ground. From now on I’ll do as advised and ignore you.

SalsaQueen Happy to "give it a rest" if only I knew what you were talking about. I can't see any of my recent posts are addressed to you, but if you are feeling so stressed I'm really sorry for you.

Anniebach I know you did .

Trisher

yes it is gossip, but it is also clear that there is something going on as PS only outed himself because he was backed into a corner.
And I thought you might want to know why grooming was mentioned.
It wasn't like they met on a night out.
My problem with PS is only that he is full of bull and I don't buy this need to stay in the closet for decades.
I think it is not helpful to the LBGTQ+ community when men say they need to hide their sexuality

I choose not to watch anything he is on because I cannot bear him but also he is on just not progs I would not watch.

I don't think he lied to his wife. I think he and her probably have a good friendship and she was willing to be his beard.
It is not that unusual and I do not care as it does not affect me at all.
However a grown man using his position to get close to a very young person, male or female is very yucky.

I said ‘lucky’ with an emoji

Trisher You're so keen to keep spoiling for a fight .

It was actually another person on here who suggested that an older woman with a younger man would be considered to be lucky. I simply agreed with it.

I really couldn't give a toss about any of it. Give it a rest now, luv, for goodness sake.

pinkquartz if the young man in question either reports abuse or complains about how he was treated by PS I will certainly condemn that and PS. But at the moment all that is being produced is rumour and speculation and srangely enough I don't make judgements on that basis although it is obvious that some people do. That's the difference between this case and PA. The young woman involved has reported her grooming and treatment to the relevant authorities. If this young man does the same that makes it a similar case. Until then it is just gossip.