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Phillip Scofield Why all the Fuss

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glammanana Fri 07-Feb-20 12:14:44

Why is his private life so important to everyone he is a lovely man and shouldn't have to explain himself to the media if he was the man next door would anyone be bothered I doubt it.

ReadyMeals Sat 08-Feb-20 12:15:25

I have to admit I've actually not read the finer details of his declaration. But I think in many people in similar situations it's not so much that they have suppressed their true sexuality as that they have suddenly in mid life found themselves unexpectedly in love with someone who happens to be the same sex. I tend to think of bisexuals as people who have already found themselves attracted to both sexes - sometimes even men and women at the same time, the same day or week even. Bisexual people I know of often want both in their lives at the same time and miss sex with women if they are with a man and being faithful. Whereas the "it doesn't matter" category in my mind is that you're attracted to the gender you happen to be in love with at the time - which could mean you're heterosexual for many years then homosexual for many years after changing partner. I hope this makes sense.

BlueBelle Sat 08-Feb-20 12:26:08

Well I lived with (shock horror) my not yet husband in 1963 and we lived in a flat owned by a lovely man and his boyfriend who lived together in the flat above us (openly)
1963 !!! This man got married in 1993 I m sure he wouldn’t have been hung drawn and quartered if he’d have had the courage to accept his homosexuality then
Compassion yes I have loads of compassion for kids facing cancer, refugees walking from their bombed homes, illness, homelessness, animal cruelty I could go on and on but do I feel compassion for a very rich man who bares all about his sexual preferences on a TV programme and gets lauded as if he has just swam the ocean to save a drowning human so no I m neither interested or feeling any compassion
Get on with your life silver fox and don’t mention it again once was too much

moggie57 Sat 08-Feb-20 12:29:49

thats his decision .not sure i really want to know his personal things. thats the trouble with this world /media ,maybe he thought every one would like to know. .well i dont and i dont care if he is coming out. coming out of where?

TrendyNannie6 Sat 08-Feb-20 12:31:49

Totally agree with Bluebelle ??

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 12:32:54

Agree BlueBell

GoldenAge Sat 08-Feb-20 12:35:30

He remains in control - isn't this what we all want to do with our lives - as for Ruth being on the brink of calling him out for bullying - what kind of news is this - she's a ditherer as we have seen over the years and especially on Strictly - I have no idea whether he's been bullying her or not but if so she's had every opportunity with her own over-exposure on ITV to bring this out - she keeps it there as a simmering threat - not a very nice trait

MissAdventure Sat 08-Feb-20 12:36:29

I also know of a gay couple who lived together (in the mid 80s) whose whole family insisted that "nothing like that" was going on.
Apparently it was just for convenience reasons that they flat shared. smile

Buttonjugs Sat 08-Feb-20 12:48:25

PS has had some negative press recently. I lost respect for him when he began fronting the ads for we rip you off buying your car.com. The first thing I said after the gay announcement was that it was a coincidence - I believe he is gay but I think he ‘came out’ to deflect the negativity.

petalmoore Sat 08-Feb-20 12:52:14

Interesting that this thread, entitled Why All The Fuss -should already have run to nine pages ...

sazz1 Sat 08-Feb-20 12:54:37

On a different note I once went on a trip to the seaside with my sister (Who doesn't look a bit like me)
We booked a twin bedded room at the B&B but were given a double bed and when we queried it were told "it's ok we are very open minded!" I didn't mind as she's my sister but wouldn't have accepted it had it been a friend. Some people just presume people are gay.

lizzypopbottle Sat 08-Feb-20 12:58:25

If the most earth shattering news yesterday was that Phillip Schofield has come out as gay, that's a good day to my way of thinking.

Doodledog Sat 08-Feb-20 12:59:03

My sister and I went to a wedding fair recently (her daughter was getting married). We wandered off together while the young ones did their thing, and it was funny how many people assumed we were a couple and tried to sell us venues and so on.

I pointed out that after living with her for so long when we were children it would be a warm January before I did it again grin.

SirChenjin Sat 08-Feb-20 13:06:53

I knew quite a few people in the 80s and early nineties who lived with their ‘friends’ too MissAdventure! They obviously felt they couldn’t come out for reasons known only to themselves and their families. My uncle has a very close friend who definitely did not come out in the fifties and sixties when it was still illegal - it beggars belief it was ever a criminal activity. It’s so sad that he felt he never had the opportunity to meet and live openly with someone whom he loved and adored.

timetogo2016 Sat 08-Feb-20 13:11:07

I know of at least 5 gay men Kittye all are lovely people but 3 of them when they came out all of a sudden their voices changed and seriously walked different.
It`s not typecasting at all as the other 2 stayed very manly.

GrumpyGran8 Sat 08-Feb-20 13:13:13

MissAdventure Yes,discreet gay couples could get away with quite a lot in those days. "They share a bedroom to save on heating costs" was one explanation I remember hearing, and women who shared a home longterm were "just good friends".
And there were the newspaper obituaries - men who had never married were routinely described as "confirmed batchelors"; everyone knew what that meant.
I prefer today's atitude that people no longer have to be "discreet" about their sexuality and can hop into bed with anybody they like. However, the fuss that the media have been making over PS is ridiculous, not to mention his going on about the pain he's been suffering.
He's not been brave at all by coming out now. Coming out twenty years ago, leaving his marriage so that his wife could find happiness with someone else, and risking his whole career - now that would have been the brave thing to do!
In my view, it's his wife who is now suffering. She's almost certainly known all about it and silently put up with it for years; now that it's all over the news, she has to plaster on a smile for the cameras and pretend that everything is fine and always has been.

Eloethan Sat 08-Feb-20 13:13:59

As with racism, it only takes an issue like this to reveal an underlying current of homophobia.

Howcome Sat 08-Feb-20 13:15:53

I really don’t care either way - I do however think he has “jumped on a band wagon” I’m not sure if he’s gay or thinks he is.... I have friends who have been married many years they came out caused upset in their families and then decided not to leave their marriage or pursue a relationship with another man. They may as well have left it all as was and not caused the pain.

But I agree with the general view it’s a so what announcement, no one cares either way.

Kandinsky Sat 08-Feb-20 13:19:37

Hear Hear BlueBelle

sarahellenwhitney Sat 08-Feb-20 13:19:50

I recall during the few years before I retired a female colleagues husband ending their forty year marriage.
Her H was leaving her for a another man .although as she claimed 'was in bits about it,' found it less hard to accept than had it been ' another woman'.I could understand this as I too, were it another woman have wanted to know what does she have /can give /given you that I cannot / haven't. I must be very naïve.

SirChenjin Sat 08-Feb-20 13:22:32

I agree Eloethan

More homophobic or bordering on homophobic comments on here than I expected.

Sparklefizz Sat 08-Feb-20 13:23:54

Totally agree BlueBelle

dorcas1950 Sat 08-Feb-20 13:41:37

I agree with Blue Belle.

inishowen Sat 08-Feb-20 13:42:58

I wonder how he will cope with Dancing on Ice tomorrow. I imagine he's having a difficult weekend.

Aepgirl Sat 08-Feb-20 13:45:15

I feel so sorry for his wife and daughters. This is a very private matter and he should not be publicly congratulated on TV. I suspect somebody was going to ‘spill the beans’ or even threaten blackmail, so he was getting in first.

Notthatoldyet9 Sat 08-Feb-20 13:45:41

If my husband of 29 years told me after 2 children he was homosexual i would be reaching for the disinfectant and going to a VD clinic
Let me be clear - i would be doing this if partner was a man or woman

He knows the game, has been accused of bullying and would have been outed by a trash paper
So got his mate hollie to help him

Hos poor wife - if he is gay who has he been with already ?
In other words, man or woman he has been unfaithful emotionally and physically

To me anyone who does this is scum