Deported to Jamaica before Windrush report

Maddy, likely the same people who are teaching criminals who were born in the U.K. as well. Surely you don’t think there are none of those! What a foolish statement

Why all this hand wringing? They are criminals. What about their victims? Just glad we don't have to pay anymore for their chosen life style, that won't change and hope they enjoy their new homes because they obviously didn't value the one they had here.

trisher
In any case most of them came as children so they are our responsibility

How do you come to that conclusion?
They are not citizens of the U.K., never have been, they have potentially been living here illegally. How does that make us responsible?
Would you be showing the same level of outrage if it was a plane full of Australians? For all we know this may well have occurred.

And absolutely JenniferE, victims of rape, manslaughter, drug dealers, and aggravated robbery, which means with a weapon/firearm.
Who were the victims? What about them?

If they learnt how to be a criminal here, they didn’t learn it from me, and I very much doubt they learnt it from any of you, so who/where did they learn it? Their schools? That seems doubtful. Who/where then? Peer group? Family? Neighbours? Church? If they learnt it here, we need to know who’s teaching people how to be a criminal don’t we?

What about the ruined lives of their victims?

As MPs are constantly lying in Parliament I can't see how anyone can be clear about exactly what crimes are involved. Certainly some of these are historic crimes which the people involved have served time for. Some of them have been reformed but are still being deported. In any case most of them came as children so they are our responsibility. If they are criminals they learned that here.

It is impossible to get a complete picture of who will be in the final 50, as there is no transparency from the Home Office.

apparently?

Just seen Channel4 news, all those deported today were guilty of very serious crimes, in other words no one was deported for just stealing one mobile phone. As far as I’m concerned, I’m glad they’ve gone.

As a NZer I may have some input here which gives a different perspective. We have been the recipients of a similar policy which means that we receive criminals who have spent all their lives in Australia have no family left in New Zealand and are often unemployed. Also many of them have brought their gang affiliations along with them which has also caused big problems. The numbers aren’t huge but it has been enough to cause big headaches for our police and welfare people. It also has not been great for our relationship with Australia.
These are people who may have immigrated as babies.

I would comment that possibly these people in the UK are being sent to smaller countries where their impact would be greater than we have experienced in NZ. There are wider issues which need to be thought about, what about your relationship with the country you are sending them to. Rehabilitation for the criminals is much harder when there is no family support. Food for thought.

I have signed the petition, this is a disgrace. Lives and families have been ruined.

Johnson gave up his USA citizenship in 2016

Without knowing the details of all the offences deemed to justify deportation, some, at least, were prosecuted and served their sentences several years ago. Why have they only just been detained for deportation? Why not deport them once they've served their time?

It surely cannot be that the Home Office has been ordered to trawl back for a number of years and catch as many non-national ex offenders as they can, so as to shine up this government's Law & Order credentials?

admitted Class A drugs too.

Paddyanne, despite BJ being born abroad, New York I think, he definitely is a British citizen, and therefore were he to be convicted of a prisonable offence in Britain, he would be incarcerated in a British prison rather deported.
I admire your sense of fun though, your post made me smile.

paddyanne
He must have worked fast...he has only effectively led a government since 12th December 2019.
I would suggest Cameron and George Osborne more culpable.

When are we going to deport Boris Johnston? Born abroad and guilty as hell of the death of thousands due to his governments policies on the sick,disabled and poor .I think he should be on the next plane out ,in fact I'm not sure he should have been allowed to stand as an MP never mind aPM ...given his awful record,encitement to violence with statetments against muslims ,blacks , SCOTS!! I'll happily escort him to the airport and makesure he gets on his flight and stays away

Apparently those deemed for deportation, had been awarded between them prison sentences of 300 years. These must have been either some serious offences or some repeat offenders.

I’m not sure that the EU has anything to do with this really.

'The Home Office said that under the UK Borders Act 2007, a deportation order must be made where a foreign national has been convicted of an offence and received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more'...
...does that mean we didn't have to leave the EU to have control of our borders then?

I agree JenniferE that those who were deported should have been because it was reported that they had committed serious crimes such as rape. However, I also think we have a duty of care towards those who have served in the Armed Forces, and even if they are not citizens, their cases should be looked at separately.
I feel sure that no one has been deported just for stealing a mobile phone. Just one crime of stealing one mobile phone, no, I don’t think that has happened.

They had all served prison sentences, and as has already been stated, that doesn’t happen in a lot of cases.

We are constantly being told that our prisons are overcrowded, so the judiciary is under a certain amount of pressure to only hand out custodial sentences for more serious crimes.

That is why I believe the decision to deport them was correct.

I do think that if a person has served in the Armed Forces, then we owe them really. They should not be deported.
I don’t think anyone should be deported for stealing a mobile phone, my opinion only.

Apparently all the ones removed from the country had been in prison. That takes some doing these days if youre white.

If youre black youre less likely to just get a rap on the knuckles.

Apparently all the ones removed from the country had been in prison. That takes some doing these days - probation, first offence, says sorry etc.

A 17y old does not go to prison (expensive punishment) for just stealing a mobile phone. Sorry, I don’t buy it!