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Do we tend to ignore the true facts ?

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lemongrove Sun 23-Feb-20 20:31:01

If one side thinks that only ‘it’ holds the facts.....that way lies
Madness.?

POGS Sun 23-Feb-20 20:23:04

Wiltshiregran

' It makes me wonder why there was so much anti against Labour rather than the Tories on Gransnet prior to the GE, was it due to Tabloid brainwashing propaganda or true life experiences or just sheer prejudice or the Corbyn syndrome ?'
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Your question about ignoring facts has an ironic ring to it because many Gransnet posters would say there has been a concerted effort to attack the Conservative Party on Gransnet and not only over the last 12 months.

I think the ' fact ' is if you vote or hold either left or right wing political views you will say the other side has been engaged in a concerted effort to attack you.

Have you counted how many threads or posts support or opinion to be able to state the ' facts'.

lemongrove Sun 23-Feb-20 20:15:09

Firstly, I would say that it was probably equal measures between LP voters and other voters on GN.
There was of course, ( from many LP voters here) a lot of doubts expressed by them regarding Corbyn and the manifesto. This doubt was also felt by LP voters in the country, they thought Corbyn out of touch with them and thought him unpatriotic, anti-Semitic and a rigid idealist.
The Corbyn syndrome, as you call it was the main reason people felt anti-Labour IMHO.

GagaJo Sun 23-Feb-20 20:09:22

I think most people in the UK are deeply class based. In addition, I think they trust the establishment. Anyone of middle class or above fear socialism, because they see it as taking away from them.

The working classes are kept down, through inferior education. Even as a teacher, I see this as deliberate policy. So many hurdles are put in the way of the educational system, there is no way it is by chance. If the minds of the workers aren't developed, they don't have the analytical skills to see that 'the establishment' is NEVER going to help them. That the right wing is only out for itself, as we can see now with the current government.

In addition, the establishment have SO much money behind them. They can afford a horrific media campaign and have no compunction about lying. Power is all, to them. Once in power, they can do what they want, until the next round of election lies.

I will never live to see a government which really has the welfare of the people they are supposed to represent at heart. I fear we are heading back to an extreme right-wing to rival that of the Nazis. Terrifying.

Wiltshiregran Sun 23-Feb-20 20:00:46

On these pages over the last 12 months there has been a considerable anti Labour campaign.

Yet, During the last 50 years we have had 10 Conservative PM's and 5 Labour PM's . During the 50 yr period the Conservatives have been in charge of the economy and infrastructure for 32 years, 64% of the period and Labour only for 18 years.
The worst crises in the 50 yrs being in the 90's under Thatcher when on Black Wednesday UK interest rates shot up to 15%.
It makes me wonder why there was so much anti against Labour rather than the Tories on Gransnet prior to the GE, was it due to Tabloid brainwashing propaganda or true life experiences or just sheer prejudice or the Corbyn syndrome ?