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Leave voter faces ruin without EU workers

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GagaJo Mon 24-Feb-20 18:29:48

No sympathy.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-eu-migrant-workers-fruit-farm-harry-hall-hunter-partnership-bbc-radio-4-today-a7802381.html?fbclid=IwAR1SE8CAgw8p5RK5wMa1tQF-1HgM3bGPSaRMh-PZ2goKLUwXp9LjMwPataI

MaizieD Wed 26-Feb-20 12:09:32

Still going strong but sold on last year. Owners getting out before the going got bad?

www.fruitnet.com/fpj/article/179715/hhp-sells-majority-of-operations-to-agri-fund

Oopsminty Wed 26-Feb-20 09:06:57

Looks as if this company is still going strong

jura2 Wed 26-Feb-20 08:53:08

Payments will be reduced by 5-25% next year for farmers in England, the government has confirmed.

farmers are aready going under in droves- so they lose access to Labourers and lose part of their subsidies - what then?

I know, I know, Urm and some will say 'wait and see' ...

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Feb-20 09:50:38

It seems to me that plenty of people say foreign workers take lower wages. Well we do have minimum wage levels here so I don't really understand that.

I do of course understand that minimum wage is really minimum - but surely our EU workers are simply on minimum wage like so many shop workers, council employees and factory workers?

If EU workers are not being paid the minimum wage, surely that's an offence and the employer should be prosecuted.

Eloethan Tue 25-Feb-20 00:42:27

Trying to look on the bright side, perhaps this policy will force employers to pay people proper wages. Of course,it's not guaranteed that this will address the shortage of workers, and it would not be an instant solution in any event. It will also mean that either farmers go out of business or consumers will have to pay significantly more than at present. That will be an annoyance for the reasonably comfortably off but a disaster for the growing number of people living hand to mouth.

It is also worrying that the care sector is warning of an escalation in staff shortages. I think wages would have to be significantly raised in order to attract people to what is a very demanding and responsible job, which is described - unfairly I think - as "low skill". The cost of residential care is already enormous so I wonder whether care companies will wish to continue in a market whose profits will be even more seriously squeezed. Likewise the hospitality industry.

Although I would like to be optimistic, I feel that little preparation and planning has been made to address these problems. If EU workers gradually withdrew from Britain perhaps it would not be such an issue but there are already reports of serious shortages of workers and I feel it is unlikely that these gaps can be filled with the degree of urgency that will be required.

On top of that, highly skilled EU workers, such as engineers, scientists, medical and nursing staff, technologists, etc, are reportedly feeling they are less welcome in Britain and are no longer considering taking up employment here - and some of those who had intended to stay are thinking of moving elsewhere.

Will all this really help Britain to "unleash its potential"?

MaizieD Mon 24-Feb-20 23:42:07

Well, you just did, Ug ?

Since when was reporting the truth 'anti Brexit'?

Have you signed up for the fruit picking holiday yet?

Call, you can eat as many as you like...

Urmstongran Mon 24-Feb-20 23:07:01

I can’t be bothered commenting on a news article from the Indie (always anti-Brexit anyway, same as the Graun), from 3 years ago! Jeez.

Callistemon Mon 24-Feb-20 22:57:28

Are we allowed to eat as many as we pack?

MaizieD Mon 24-Feb-20 22:55:08

I think we actually had a thread on this story three years ago. It was very similar to this one...grin

Anyway, our Home Sec has got it all sorted now. All of the retired contingent on Gnet are going to have a lovely summer holiday in Surrey with a bit of light fruit picking in the fresh air to while away the time. Caravan accommodation provided... We'll even get a bit of pocket money..

Leave voters get the first chance to join the holidaymakers...if you voted Remain don't be disappointed if you don't get a place on the trip..I'm sure your turn will come..

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 22:44:50

The first of many to start shouting ‘that’s not the Brexit I voted for’ and the answer is ‘oh yes it is!’. ?

Callistemon Mon 24-Feb-20 22:20:58

Nearly three years ago, NotSpaghetti!

How is he faring so far?

NotSpaghetti Mon 24-Feb-20 21:49:54

This is an old piece from 2017. I'd like to know how he feels today...

Dinahmo Mon 24-Feb-20 20:59:16

Rather than feel sorry for that young man, i feel more sorry for his UK workers who are going to lose their jobs and may have difficulty in finding another. The Eu migrants who used to come over for summer jobs will be able to find them elsewhere in the EU.

paddyanne Mon 24-Feb-20 20:27:49

We 've been saying ...up in Scotland... that our industry and economy will die as a result of Brexit.Give us credit for knowing our own country and its needs.Doen't it appall you that people will lose fruit farms and a lot of other businesses due to the brexiteers being too "trusting" in government and media reports ? It sure as hell worries me that friends will lose decades of hard work building businesses simply because people couldn't be bothered finding out the FACTS before marking an X in the box.

varian Mon 24-Feb-20 19:52:42

We've already suffered three and a half years of brexit damage. When can we admit that this was wrong? 5 yrs or 50 years ( according to Mogg). Hardly any of us will be around to see it - if it ever happens that we overcome this brexit nonsense.

GagaJo Mon 24-Feb-20 19:45:25

'Scouring' at the top of the news links. Whatever kandinsky.

Kandinsky Mon 24-Feb-20 19:21:17

It’s far too early to know whether brexit will be a success or not. In 5 years time maybe we’ll know.
What’s worrying ( and pretty pathetic ) is the fact that there are remainers scouring the media for any bad news so they can say .....’see! look what you’ve done!’
Just get on with your lives for god sake & stop obsessing over a trading bloc.

paddyanne Mon 24-Feb-20 19:11:27

Are you happy with that* Kandinsky* with potential price rises of 50% ,and thats on things we grow here ,heaven alone knows what the tarrifs on things from abroad will be .Well done all those fighting for a sovereignty they always had .You should have looked a lot closer to home for all the UK's ills ...like Westminster!

Kandinsky Mon 24-Feb-20 19:08:38

Don’t hold your breath.

varian Mon 24-Feb-20 19:06:28

An abject apology wouldn't come amiss.

Kandinsky Mon 24-Feb-20 19:03:41

Even if every single leave voter ends up regretting their decision - so what?
Nothings going to change now, we’ve left the EU no matter what.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 18:55:00

This time next year, even more beds will be blocked in hospitals as care homes reduce beds due to shortage of staff. Thank you to Leave voters as more operations are cancelled and waiting lists grow.

varian Mon 24-Feb-20 18:52:23

So many, both Leave and Remain voters, have already suffered the consequenses and much worse is still to come.

How long will it take for the folk who were fooled by the Leave liars to wake up and see that they were seriously misled?

EllanVannin Mon 24-Feb-20 18:51:43

Why can't folk see further than the ends of their noses ? Why do they always have to follow what others do ? I hate anything to do with Brexit----it was the vilest decision ever made to divide this country as well as our friends in Europe.
You reap what you sow. Why did anyone vote to leave---can you answer that yet ??

Daisymae Mon 24-Feb-20 18:49:05

Its interesting as so many people have been so certain that they knew what they were voting for. This man has a large business so you would think that he would have been aware of the impact.