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Is Johnson getting bored?

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Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 13:42:50

It occurred to me yesterday that we have seen little of the PM in recent days. Not as if anything much is happening, what with serious flooding, an international health crisis and now the stock markets in freefall. I wondered if perhaps he is getting bored with the tedium of being PM? Before this weeks PMQs he has not been seen in public for 12 days. Perhaps is OK for him to be holed up in Chequers over the weekend? What do you think??

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 23:34:03

So

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 23:33:56

I do hope so Dolly - the UK deserves some much better than the blonde buffoon.

cupaffull Fri 28-Feb-20 23:10:46

The Prime Minister is the DIRECTOR of the orchestra of ministers and should not be dashing about the country at the behest of detractors and the Media, social and broadcast!
He has Ministers to do the running around. Use the analogy of running a business.....someone has to have oversight.

Imo, he should be holed up in the office doing the strategic planning for the UK's future. We need him to focus on all the shennagans of the EU negotiations. He at least can talk to them on their own level and in their own language and doesn't succumb to their bullying tactics.
And also more lately on the potential financial implications of Coronavirus as that could feasibly impact on investment north of the Watford Gap. Time to level out investment throughout the UK rather than preferentially to the south.

Dollymac Fri 28-Feb-20 22:49:11

He is, indeed, conspicuous by his absence. ..
No, it's not good look is it?
Coronavirus
Not supporting those who are flooded...
He enjoyed a bumper weekend, culminating in a prospective tennis match, with an Oligarch's wife for £90,000
I agree with Pink, he won't last five years

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 22:48:08

Unfortunately voters didn't agree with you Barmeyoldbat. There is plenty of evidence from canvassers that people just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Corbyn.

It's also true that voters have short memories and don't look at the bigger picture.

Johnson doesn't have leadership qualities, but he (or rather Cummings) have manipulated things, so that there is no effective brake on what he does. One only has to look at GN to realise that any opposition has an uphill task. people have entrenched views and it's difficult to shift them.

Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 22:38:08

The only politician they could find to string a few words together on the News at Ten was Jeremy Hunt. What does that tell you about the leadership? It's quite extraordinary with the state of near panic in some parts of the populace and the actual panic in the financial markets.

pinkquartz Fri 28-Feb-20 22:20:29

He looks clueless.
He can't have much longer left.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 28-Feb-20 22:17:46

Growstuff, I just feel that any Labour leader other than JC must be better than Boris and I just hope to goodness that come the next election the country will see this. Mind you people have short memories and if he comes up with some good news just before an election then he could be in again. We will just have to wait and hope he doesn't muck the country up to much.

Callistemon Fri 28-Feb-20 22:00:11

Barmeyoldbat I don't know either, because it's getting worse, not better. And is due to worsen now with Jorge.

Callistemon Fri 28-Feb-20 21:53:29

Is he self-isolating?
Hope he has plenty of supplies.

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 21:49:26

Barmeyoldbat Oh, I can understand it. He doesn't care. He's PM and has an advisor to tell him how to maintain his popularity. That's all he cares about.

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 21:46:41

He will be judged on how much he evens up the country. Putting the Brexit fiasco to one side for the moment, people who wouldn't normally voted Conservative wanted a change. They've seen that local and national government hasn't stopped the loss of jobs and boarded up shops etc. They've seen a rise in crime, difficulties in getting GP appointments, etc. They believe local government is at fault, whereas the truth is that 10 years of Conservative government has cut local government funding.

I'm sure we'll have all sorts of PR exercises in five years time, but most people really aren't that stupid. My feeling is that it won't be so much about the Conservatives, but whether the Labour Party can produce a credible narrative. If it can't, people will continue to vote Conservative.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 28-Feb-20 21:03:12

What I can't understand is why he hasn't declared the flooding a national emergency, or have I missed something. He said today that the virus was a priority, goody, goody, and that we should all wash our hands but not a word about the flooding. I don't think he has a clue and is out of his depth. I also read somewhere, can't remember where but it wasn't the Mail that his plan to even up the country is not now possible. Will try to think where I saw it.

Greymar Fri 28-Feb-20 20:55:28

Even the ones, throughout the years, I didn't like were better than absolutely nothing. Surely we need some sort of lead on flooding and Corona quickly?

MaizieD Fri 28-Feb-20 20:52:35

As to 'courting publicity', what rubbish!

The public has every right to know what is happening in government, MPs hiding themselves away to avoid scrutiny is not a good look.

MaizieD Fri 28-Feb-20 20:49:25

I'm sure we all like to think that they are working away like little beavers, but that is not the reason they've been ordered not to have anything to do with the media (unless given permission, and a script, of course). Too many embarrassingly contradictory interviews in the early days.

This has led to the outrageous decision of the BBC to stand down a Labour MP booked to appear on R4 Any Questions this evening 'because no tory MP would take part'. If the tories choose no to subject themselves to public scrutiny there is no earthly reason why opposition MPs should be silenced.

twitter.com/AndyMcDonaldMP/status/1233429546034225152

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Feb-20 20:34:30

I am happier with a government working on their briefs as opposed to courting publicity at every available opportunity.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 20:17:05

Yes that’s right Urm - in 2008 Ken Livingstone did indeed say that about BJ in the run up to the mayoral contest. He then went on to say that he thought the contest would be “a close fight because Johnson's talents were suited to the celebrity age. "This is sadly no longer the world of 20 years ago, of serious political debate. It's all about celebrity," and then “I can imagine more people will be watching Big Brother than will ever watch political programmes any more, and someone who turns up and tells good jokes is formidable”. Ken Livingstone then attacked BJs policies.

You can read what KL actually said here www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2008/feb/15/livingstone.johnson

GagaJo Fri 28-Feb-20 20:14:45

Led. Pfft.

jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 20:06:24

He did indeed...

then WHAT?

Urmstongran Fri 28-Feb-20 20:00:09

In the words of Ken Livingstone, "Whatever you may think of Boris, make no mistake, he is the most formidable political opponent out there in British politics."

Then, think on, he was on the right side of history over BREXIT (when so many were not) and he led the highly successful Leave campaign to victory.

jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 19:48:32

aping Trump- yet again.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:45:27

Oh thank god - we can all sleep soundly now. NHS bosses and consultants must be so grateful for this advice. Three cheers for Boris!

Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 19:40:25

Heard Johnson on the radio tonight - he said we should wash our hands! Good to know that he's on the ball.......

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:33:53

Think of it as super forecasting smile