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Greymar Fri 20-Mar-20 07:34:52

Why is it so bad there? I feel so sorry.

kwest Fri 20-Mar-20 10:27:31

My cousin and her husband live in Northern Italy. They have been in lodkdown for two weeks. We have been emailing every couple of days and always resound within hours. I emailed her yesterday morning and no response. I am getting a bit worried.

Juules Fri 20-Mar-20 10:27:50

So for the first time our broken dysfunctional society, where many of us (not all) rarely or never see or get a phone call from our children are actually benefiting from our isolated existence. We can't catch COV 19 from our grandchildren if we are not given the opportunity to see them. What a sad place the UK has become.

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:28:21

What on earth do you need 45kgs for shortlegs?grin

BusterTank Fri 20-Mar-20 10:28:36

It's because they didn't act on it quick enough , a bit like the uk . Now we know what we have to look forward too .

MerylStreep Fri 20-Mar-20 10:30:31

Callistamon
It's exactly the same in Spain and Portugal. Technically they are all illegal but as Bill Clinton said: it's the economy, stupid ?

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:34:22

A boy my son knew from school (theyre now in different college so he doesnt see him)txt him he went to italy about a week& half ago.(his dads Italian) so now hes on lockdown.I hope hes thoroughly tested before being allowed back to Britain,as are any other nations visitors to italy before theyre 'released' back to where they came from.

Callistemon Fri 20-Mar-20 10:37:08

All kept very quiet until now, MerylStreep

Truddles Fri 20-Mar-20 10:41:30

13,600 people died of hunger today. So far.

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:42:36

Its frightening though,many people might not dare tell if they had true symptoms as its looking like 'if you go to hosp,they dont treat you,just let you die off' so everyone(particularly old people) are probably letting it spread rather than risk that.

sandelf Fri 20-Mar-20 10:42:48

suziewoozie This links to the daily updated situation in UK. You click on the map and draw in to your area - then click blue dot to see actual case number in your area. Not cheering, but at least not hysterical rumour. www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

Americanpie Fri 20-Mar-20 10:47:24

There are have been thousands more deaths in China than the authorities will admit too. I have a relation there. Its dreadful and all of us must be really careful and follow all of the advice and use our own common sense. The danger will increase as people start to get complacent. Please be vigilant and don't be afraid to quietly call out silly actions. We will survive this.

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:48:15

Or if we're to 'stay in' 7 days with minor ailments,how do we know what's minor,or what's going to get worse,or what is or isn't covid 19 ?-THAT'S when they should be testing folk.to cease the spread.(or just treat folk for a mild (other) condition) whichever they've got!

Callistemon Fri 20-Mar-20 10:49:01

NotSpaghetti's link is very informative too

Bellocchild Fri 20-Mar-20 10:52:15

It's partly proximity. In northern Italian cities, the population density is far higher than in comparable European cities - double in some cases. Quite simply, more people live morely closely together, so disease spreads more readily.

NotSpaghetti Fri 20-Mar-20 10:52:50

The links in the textiles industry between Northern Italy and and Milan - even as far as Como are quite intense I understand. Many of the older firms are in close partnerships with China and according to a family member in the industry some have been bought out. Chinese and Italian textile firms are travelling to and fro all the time and workers visiting the other parts of the networks frequently. I suppose that in itself will increase the spread - but as someone said earlier, Italy has a massive number of elderly people - I think I read 23% - certainly more than other countries in Europe. Add to this the prevalence of multi-generational living and the "leak" about the lockdown and it's a recipe for disaster.

dublingran Fri 20-Mar-20 10:52:52

I can give you some interesting statistics from Ireland, where our schools, colleges & childcare facilities closed down over a week ago, all the pubs are closed (oh yes!) & we’re exhorted to either isolate or practice ‘social distancing’. Of the first 350 reported cases, 11% are in the 15-24 age group, 54% in the 25-54 group, 15% in 55-64 & 16% for the over 65s.
I don’t want anyone to be ill at all but as someone in their 70s & highly vulnerable (I’m immunosuppressed) I’m actually consoled by these figures.

Maremia Fri 20-Mar-20 10:52:53

Did anyone watching the 'science' briefing, on BBC yesterday with the two Experts, hear that woman with the dry cough the whole way through the talk? Think I would have said something. And, the reporters were not spaced out. We need everyone to be doing the right thing and give good example.
Everyone!!!

Greciangirl Fri 20-Mar-20 10:54:10

I wish supermarkets here would only allow a few customers in at a time.
If that happened, they would probably need armed guards at entrance to hold of the hordes.
Pathetic, isn’t it?

Bellocchild Fri 20-Mar-20 10:54:12

More not morely :-)

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:55:25

If its spread by 'droplets' how is it spreading like this?? I dont see everyone out& about (or didnt before this came to light?) Hacking& 'coughing their guts up' & spreading 'droplets' on everything, even in venice- so wheres all the 'droplets' coming from for us all to touch??

NotSpaghetti Fri 20-Mar-20 10:58:29

Truddles - that really does make you stop and think doesn't it.
What ARE we doing to allow that to happen.
At least we aren't in a war zone as well - or a refugee camp - or a prison for that matter. We are still very lucky really. Thank you for reminding us Truddles.

Nannan2 Fri 20-Mar-20 10:59:42

I bet they didnt even bother to test the woman with the dry couch either!

SallyB392 Fri 20-Mar-20 11:02:05

I don't think that Italy is particularly bad in comparison to other European countries, including Britain. It's just further ahead than us!

Callistemon Fri 20-Mar-20 11:02:28

If you normally give to food banks but can't go out shopping, you can donate money instead.

Rachand Fri 20-Mar-20 11:02:49

Still going out thinking it’s safe? I went to local Post Office cum grocery store yesterday, was being served when the man behind me starts coughing without covering his face - lovely . I am NO longer going anywhere like that for a long time. How can people behave so irresponsibly. I would of said something but to be honest he was with another bloke and they looked like they would of given me a right mouthful. I have learnt my lesson.