Alex Salmond Trial Verdict

There was an inquiry into sexual harassment In January which Salmon won because of a technicality. The possibility that this came to court because of that can't be dismissed. I'm afraid the women have been badly treated and used by everyone.

I am still waiting for those that so criticise the criminal justice system in this country to inform me what they would have to replace it despite me asking a number of times.

The lack of insight in that matter is very concerning considering the level of criticism of the present system by many in this thread. ?

SirChenjin I take it that you must be envious of my occupation and a great follower of me on the forum as you are so so aware of my posts. ???

janipat I have today made many posts in this thread and answered many questions from anniebach and others alongside working from home for our business.

Therefore if I have not got round to your series of questions in your post @17:52 today so be it. However, I believe that I have placed considerable effort into this thread today and therefore your constant demands i will make wait until tomorrow if I have time for that then.

However, in short, I have served on jury service in the 1990s. That service did involve a sexual assault case and that experience left me with little confidence in the jury system.

However, that system is the bases of justice in our criminal courts in the United Kingdom and there is nothing else available at this point in time other than anarchy

Yes I’m sure you do think that Grandad - as I said, your lack of insight is very concerning and demonstrated over and over again in your posts on the subject (and we’re well aware of what you do for a living by now).

Still ignoring my question grandad I'll take that as having no answer. Of course as soon as you can tell of your role in Industrial Safety, the post is forthcoming. So obvious.

eazybee in regard to your post @19:19 today I believe that the substance of the second paragraph in that post very much brings forward the real outside of criminal court options that could and should have played a leading role in this matter.

In the first option taking out a series of single grievance hearings or one large joint grievance against the Scottish National party in regard to lack of duty of care towards them, they would have had three separate levels hearings available to those putting forward those grievances.

The final hearing would have taken place outside the auspices of the Scottish National Party and within the jurisdiction of an industrial court (Industrial tribunal).

I have in my role within Industrial Safety had over many years a large amount dealings with the industrial courts and have always held great confidence in their tribunal hearing setup. Indeed had the complainants in this matter proceeded along the industrial court route then their grievances may well have been better served.

The wrangling over the verdict isn't going to achieve anything.
The important thing is to stop Alex Salmond ever holding a public position again, and that depends on people in Scotland.

Did the women involved in this case use the complaints procedure at work about his behaviour, and if they did, why were their complaints not acted on?
If they did not make complaints, why not?

And yet again grandad totally ignores a question I put to him!

SirChenjin, in regard to your post @18:06 today in which you accuse me of being misogynistic in my posts, I certainly feel that is not the case.

Indeed with many women on this thread being outright in demonstrating their total non-acceptance of a legal judgment of not guilty which was brought forward by a jury made up of both men and women in regard to justice for a man, then I believe there is much misandry being demonstrated by many posting in this thread.

I wouldn't waste energy. It serves no purpose and doesnt help women or children. Those views are ten a penny, anyone involved in safeguarding women and children will have heard the plea for the status quo to remain as it is at least a thousand times before.

Grandad43, it’s unbelievable that you find it hilarious to mock women who have endured vile sexual encounters with a man who should have known much, much better. You are misogyny personified.

Sue I agree wholeheartedly with your post of 16:27. I don’t know if you’re aware that you often come across as misogynistic Grandad but your posts on this and similar demonstrate a worrying lack of insight on issues facing women.

After all, it has been a resounding victory for Salmon over his what now are proven to be wrongful accusers. should have been a quote, it was in preview, not sure why it didn't post as such.

grandad After all, it has been a resounding victory for Salmon over his what now are proven to be wrongful accusers. No, no, no and again no!!!
Have you ever served on a jury? If you have you will know that (in England at least) if you are "not certain beyond a reasonable doubt" then you must acquit. Nothing in there saying the accusers were wrongful or lying otherwise they'd be able to be prosecuted for perjury. Do you believe that in all cases if a not guilty verdict is returned the victim was therefore a wrongful accuser? Even if it's a man? And why would the not proven verdict be irrelevant?

Anniebach again ?????

Just repeating your views on justice grandad43

Anniebach your above post
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And you grandad43 praise it, no surprise given your opinion
that if those guilty of murdering 116 were prosecuted the fathers who worked in the pits should be prosecuted to.

Anniebach, in regard to your post @16:52, you state you have no faith in the British justice system, what them would you have in its place, Annie?

For without such a system there is only anarchy?

grandad43. They were innocent, your point! in all this is
praise for the British justice system . I knew some of the mothers/sisters in the names I listed, they certaintly didn’t have faith in the British justice system,

Perhaps stressed ? Try meditation

Oh I see it now SueDonim. It should have been the customers of Alex Salmons local supermarket that were seconded in to decide his innocence or guilt with evidence drawn from the local rumour mill. ???

I wouldn’t expect you to understand, Granddad43 as to why women are unhappy. I’ve never seen you show an iota of sympathy towards any issue concerning women. Your posts where women are concerned often remind me of Prof Higgins of My Fair Lady fame - Why Can’t a Woman Be More Like a Man? www.reelclassics.com/Musicals/Fairlady/lyrics/fairlady-whycantawoman.htm

My daughter happens to use the same supermarket as the person in question. She practiced social distancing from him before it was a thing, due to his reputation.

The verdicts of not guilty/not proven have damned him with faint praise.

Exactly anniebach, you backup the very point I was making in my above post

Thank you