Alex Salmond Trial Verdict

Galaxy no point in reporting such crimes in Scotland anyway judging by the outcome of this case. ?.
Those poor women. I hate to think how they are feeling today.

I'm disgusted at the verdict Jackson as good as admitted he had done it all but claimed he had not acted criminally since when was that a defence ?! I used to work in the court service and can't help thinking that the jury just wanted to get it over and go home No way was there time to carefully consider each verdict and there were majority decisions with only 13 jurors As I said disgusted

Indeed the sexual behaviour of men is always women's fault. If a man cannot manage being in a bedroom with a woman he shouldn't be allowed out.
I cant begin to believe that anyone would defend epsteins behaviour. I would never report a sexual assault annie because of the views which are prevalent on this thread.

Why would these women lie? It must have been appallingly stressful for them in the run up to and duration of the court case. There was nothing but humiliation in it for them.

Galaxy I agree it is illogical. I do not have great belief in
the legal system thinking of the many, many miscarriages of
justice.

For me , cases like Salmond’s and Epstein’s, women will continue to remain silent and women will lie.

In the Epstein case, a woman allegedly abused use to text him
and address him as ‘big boy’ ! after the abuse.

I disagree with women/men being allowed to accuse somebody of an offence and remain anonymous themselves they can say anything they like. I believe no members of the public were allowed into the courtroom I supposed so nobody could identify the accusers.

The first woman's description of her assault left me wondering if I had heard right. He had striped her, striped off himself threw her on the bed and tried to rape her.

What was she doing in the bedroom with him in the first place. Bute House is hardly a little house with limited amount of rooms. Had everybody else gone home?

I don't think A Salmond has any children, lemon and his wife is considerably older than he is, not that that is particularly relevant. I don't really know what to think about his acquittal! It's hard to make a judgement.

Oh yes, Churchill certainly like drink often drinking to excess, along with the famous cigars, but I don't think that is sordid!!! Womanising as in President Clinton certainly is!!
Yes Mountbattan is alleged to have been bi-sexual, while Edwina was alleged to have had an affair with Nehru!! Never a dull moment!!!!

Its completely illogical anniebach. Either you believe in the legal process or you dont. If you dont you may as well say because Weinstein was lying about his behaviour then so must salmond have been.

I wonder what was said at the trial that the Jury brought the not guilty verdict? I was on Jury service last year and the Defence barrister hardly bothered with questions, whereas the Prosecution was brilliant.
We were only on the Jury and we were thinking of questions that the Defence could have asked!
I wonder if the Prosecution was less than forceful?

I think it will Iam64
He has been cleared of the charges ( with one not proven) but that doesn’t mean he will be able to dive back into public life easily.
Granny23 I do remember you saying years ago that he is a charming man, but we can all be deceived about the real character of a person.I feel sorry for his wife and children.

Galaxy. No, it’s a question , if the woman in the Salmond case were lying, were the woman in the Epstein case lying ?

The jury didn’t believe the women in the Salmond case

Galaxy - couldn't have put it better myself.
I agree, this verdict gives the go ahead to the kind of men who seem to believe they have the right to grope women, to behave in an offensive manner towards women and expect no criticism.

If nothing else, this exposes Alex Salmon as a serial adulterer. I hope it ends his political and public career.

Can I just get this clear. Are some people saying that when a court rules a man innocent the women are lying and then when a court finds a man guilty (weinstein) the women are also lying. Unbelievable.

Does being a functioning alcholic make a person seedy ?

Mountbatten was bi sexual.

I have a friend who used to work as one of AS’s speechwriters. She said was he was a thoroughly unpleasant man but never mentioned any sexual improprieties.
Wasn’t Mr Churchill a functioning alcoholic?

I have to say I was not in the least bit surprised at the verdict yesterday, although very disappointed. He had a very good, if not exceptional legal team and indeed his barrister Gordon Jackson is widely known in the court circuit as an outstanding courtroom performer. Enough said.

Yes, the question was put to Nicola Sturgeon on TV last night whether it was correct that the there was some sort of rule that women should not be alone with him. I think she said something about some sort of enquiry.

I don't think Churchill had a sordid private life! He and Clemmie were devoted to each other, although the partnership did go through a couple of rocky patches, which isn't bad in such a long marriage. Son Randolph on the other hand!!!!!

It was reported ages ago that Edinburgh Airport management will not allow lone females to escort him from planes to the lounges. Wonder why??!!!

Oh, she looks very frail. What a thing he has put her through at her age.

And I think his private secretary told the court there was no rule that young ladies should not be left alone with him.

Calendargirl his wife only went to court on one day last week. I think the other lady may be his sister.

Granny23 I think maybe it’s because risk-taking is often part of the character of those who rise to the top. They then have power and they wield it against those who cannot fight back.

No one seems to have denied that there was a rule in the SNP that young women should not be left alone with AS, even if he himself didn’t know of that. Well, he wouldn’t know, would he? Who’d be brave enough to tell him?

I don't think Mountbatten had a sordid private life, other than his early association with The Duke of Windsor.
His wife did, though.