Dominic Cummings says Tory MPs 'don't care about the NHS'

*A spokesperson said she believes the government does not have the expertise it needs to source the products from UK firms because it is so used to importing goods from overseas.

So This Writer would suggest that the government has been hiding the fact in order to prevent embarrassment for ministers.*

THIS.......... but also fear that Cummings does indeed want to kill off the weak which includes me.
might be better is all the top bods had a taste of it, or their loved ones......maybe it will change their minds?

Does Cummings even have a*loved one* ? People are most vulnerable seeing the people they love in pain.
Could it make the Govt liars more human?

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GagaJo Fri 03-Apr-20 00:16:39

I thought about putting this in the Corona Virus forum, because this is why the underfunded NHS is not providing PPE, enough nurses, beds, ventilators. This is why there will be thousands of deaths of people that could have been saved.
Because at the very root of it all, the Tories don't want to fund the NHS. From the mouth of the man who controls the PM himself.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdEbfJJiag&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2rMnfSvMnUFIgR_Hd4rgwTcd0ElCiBabnowBVVQZj5FXBw4ORjEYGoHxk
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pinkquartz Fri 03-Apr-20 14:29:23

*A spokesperson said she believes the government does not have the expertise it needs to source the products from UK firms because it is so used to importing goods from overseas.

So This Writer would suggest that the government has been hiding the fact in order to prevent embarrassment for ministers.*

sorry wrong place asterisk

sorry again......
can't do it Virus brain.......

Are you OK pinkquartz?

WWM2

er not altogether ,
I have mild symptoms.....but better today than the preceding days.

Just glad you're here PQ. Sending best wishes.

Good pink and thanks for replying

@MaizieD
You said "I think it's time that we had a rethink about the function of government. Is it to care for and protect all the citizens of the country being governed or is it for forwarding the interests of a particular section?

... The tories have been hell bent on shrinking the state and privatising everything for 4 decades now. Nor do I see the relevance to this of 'many people right across society are involved in helping others and supporting progressive causes'. They, poor s-ds, however worthwhile their involvement, seem to me to be propping up a corrupt regime which has no interest at all in social justice or caring for our citizens."

Thoroughly agree with you.

We need a whole system, big picture, serious public discussion about our system of government and about the principles we want it to adhere to.

We also urgently need the same kind of discussion about the decimation of our public services. And the level of quality we want for everyone.

Re government - how can it be right that there are so many Old Etonians and former public schoolboys and Oxbridge graduates in the cabinet and in Parliament generally? How on earth can there be authentic representation?

Having people from elite classes to represent the people and advance the needs of the disadvantaged was essential 70-100 years ago. But surely our state schools and not-Oxbridge unis should be good enough by now to be filling Parliament to the rafters with we-the-people?! (oh, and why do Parliamentarians enjoy private health insurance..?)

Re: the parlous decline of public services. See the above!

Thanks, GrannieIggle

We also need to urgently unlearn the prevailing myths about how money and the economy 'works' so that we can't be fooled into accepting austerity again...

Here's a starter from Danny Boyle:

Indeed, you have to wonder if the virus is so very different from extractive capitalism. It commandeers the manufacturing elements of its hosts, gets them to make stuff for it; kills a fair few, but not enough to stop it spreading. There is no normal for us to go back to. People sleeping in the streets wasn’t normal; children living in poverty wasn’t normal; neither was our taxes helping to bomb the people of Yemen. Using other people’s lives to pile up objects wasn’t normal, the whole thing was absurd. Governments are currently busy pouring money into propping up existing inequalities, and bailing out businesses that have made their shareholders rich. The world’s worst people think that everybody is going to come out of this in a few months and go willingly back into a kind of numbing servitude. Surely it’s time to start imagining something better.

theovertake.com/~beta/frankie-boyle-did-you-ever-wonder-what-youd-be-doing-during-an-apocalypse/

Let's hope MaizieD thanks for posting that.

@MaizieD
YESSSS!!

Good catch. He put it brilliantly, in a nutshell.
Will be circulating this.

Danny Boyle one of the good people.

@MaizieD
You wrote: We also need to urgently unlearn the prevailing myths about how money and the economy 'works' so that we can't be fooled into accepting austerity again...

Too true.

On another thread here there's a discussion about some Lord's opinion that lockdown will wreck the economy and the old/disabled shouldn't be protected.

Apparently, he's a top lawyer. Ok, so what about lawyering endows him with economic modeling and prediction skills?! The risk to his investment portfolio?

What about the way the economy has been run (increasingly in favour of globalist profiteers and ever more avaricious investors) over the past 40yrs is actually good for the majority of us?

'Austerity' was all to do with shunting our money to schemes enabling stock markets, banks and other ailing global corps to stay afloat when they should have been liquidated. When ordinary people are defrauded into poverty to support the wealthy to become even wealthier, it's obvious that the unfettered globalist agenda is a failed ideology. Capitalism has to work for everyone, no one should be enslaved by it!

I keep banging on about this: horrid and tragic though it is, this Covid calamity is offering us a great opportunity to rethink the way we want our societies and our lives to be.

(BTW, I'm strictly apolitical. I don't support any political party. In a nutshell, I do though support fairness, freedom with responsibility, authentic democracy, human rights and the dignity they convey to all).

I take it then grannyiggle that the Tory party is your natural home???

Very well said, GrannyIggle.

Whitewavemark2 Hahahaha! Snowballs and hell come to mind!

GagaJo Let's go for it, eh?!

Btw how is the exponent of eugenics doing?

GrannyIggle Austerity was about not funding public services and benefits etc etc. Bailing the banks out wasn't just to help the rich guys. A few weeks before the crash we sold a house and the 90% of the proceeds was sitting in Northern Rock. Do you remember the queues to get money out? I was sure that the government wouldn't allow it to fail but because my husband was worried I tried a few times to transfer the funds out and managed to so. This was the first of the banks to hit difficulties.

Millions of people kept their savings with a bank. Can you imagine the outcry and chaos that would have ensued had the government not bailed them out? Of course the government should have reined them in afterwards but, by the time the dust had settled we had a Tory government who were not likely to do much about it.