New Labour LEADER

bluecat jaycee of course there are 100s of thousands of people perhaps many more who supported Corbyn and will be sad at his resignation. But this is the way of the world in politics. Ever onwards?

You take my breath away, Ug. Amazed that no-one else has picked y0u up on this nonsense.

... he will achieve nothing in office. Just like New Labour.

Watch the video in this tweet. Then tell us that New Labour achieved nothing...

twitter.com/joeIjoeIjoel/status/1237828010407088135

It would be interesting to know just what it is that you would like Starmer to 'achieve'. Do you have any interest at all in how people's lives could be made better?

Blimey lemon

I just didnt have the energy to address that point Maizie, in my experience it is usually said by people who dont need a labour government.

Anniebach, in regard to post @15:01 today, I would be in favour of the whole Labour Party being brought within the broader Labour movement organisation.

The whole setup could be so much more straightforward and efficient with the present Labour party structure becoming the political wing of the whole movement.

I accept that the above would be a minority view within the overall Labour movement at present, but I believe it is a growing opinion that even those which are only members of the Labour Party and not the broader movement will eventually accept.

One organisation, one set of policies, one presentation of those policies and one single perception in the electorates eyes.

Lindy the most irresponsible thing a LOTO could do now would be NOT to criticise the Government as appropriate. If you honestly think there isn’t /hasn’t been a problem with strategy, testing and PPE then you need to give your head a wobble ( thanks WW I’d let that one slip)

Barry Gardiner no longer in the shadow cabinet

WW..... Why shouldn’t I say it as I think? There are good and capable MP’s on all sides, Labour just hasn’t had a good leader in Corbyn, that can change with Keir Starmer.
I may not like all that he says and does, but so far ( early days)? he’s doing well.

MaizieD, in regard to your post @15:17 today, the Blair government is already remembered for the introduction of Zero Hours Employment contracts, the start of Gig Economy conditions of working, the British end of the Banking crisis and for bringing about the united kingdoms involment in the Iraq war.

Oh, and then there was the pledge to abolish at least parts of the Tory anti-trade union legislation which was never carried out.

Great socialist party policies in the above.

Didn’t expect BG to survive - he’s tweeted a very gracious response

I simply have to say that I really can’t be bothered to engage in any more discussions about the Blair years - or the Thatcher/Major/Cameron/May ones for that matter. The world has turned, exposing hidden faultlines and the new order will have little if anything at all to learn from the past.

Apparently the shadow cabinet announcements will be delayed as Starmer has been in meetings with Whitty, Sedwell and others.

Pleased to have you on board lemon and annie

Ian Lavery rumoured to be gone

Jon Trickett gone

Apparently he is being extremely polite in his sackings

. Thst made me smile, polite sackings. Surely Ian Lavery will be gone.

There’s a story about a reshuffle TB did - he had the second rank posts to look at and wrote the names of current holders on post its. Story goes that Gisela Stewart’s name fell off the table. And so she wasn’t given a post. And ever informed of course ?

Yes Ian Lavery was politely sacked

Long time isn’t it? I wonder if he’s waiting for the press conference to be over?

He perhaps wants us to focus on that

Bluecat and jaycee the insults levelled at Corbyn on this site have always amazed me. So many of them were fed by opinions garnered only from MSM. There will be thousands of people mourning the death of socialism today which given the present situation is pretty ironic. Whatever Starmer stands for (and it's difficult to know because he is a bit of a feather blown by the wind) it isn't the principles that underpinned Corbyn. Someone said that had he been leader he would have won the last election, but he was an ardent Remainer and the Northern seats wanted Brexit. It strikes me as strange that as the policies of socialism keep this country going there are those still decrying it.

Richard Burgon - gone

Hopefully Diane Abbott will be stood down by Starmer.

Keep up urm she has resigned

Urm never lets the facts get in the way of a good sneer

Surely he won't keep her in post?!