New Labour LEADER

Not at him, at the precious incumbent
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I give in

I can't go for my eye test and I need new spectacles ?

Starmer is setting out the priorities.

Callistemon I and my wife are about to go for our one allowed government daily walk along that nearby referred to Bristol channel coast.

However, it has been nice to get the old brain cells away from CoronaVirus and lockdown etc for an hour or so on here today.

I think we can all agree on that if nothing else.

Lucky you, Grandad
Wave to the pier for me

Tory backbencher are shifting uncomfortably in their seats as they watch the consequence of their leaders decisions. The UKs upward curve has overtaken Italy”s.

Whitewavemark2, Starmer can set out whatever he likes personally. It can be however selling those personal views to the rest of the Labour movement that can be the difficult bit, especially if they differ from what he has stated in his election campaign.

I will Callistemon, I will. ?

grandad I would hope that the good will is with him. Pointless being in politics if you don’t win an election and division definitely won’t,

Just thinking about Keir Starmer's skill-set and I would love to be a fly on the wall when he attempts to cut through the waffle about testing etc., next week.

Such a shame only 35% of affiliated members bothered to vote. ?

Going by my FB page a lot of young people are not happy .SIR Keir Starmer !! Titles are something that dont belong in a socialist party ...its definately a throw back to tory light Tony Blair .My take on it is maybe he can be the opposition that been needed for years ,Labour has been a huge disappointment for many of their older voters.Thats one of the reasons they've been voting SNP here .

The mistake that many made in the last election was thinking facebook and twitter represented the electorate.

I wouldn't have thought that any Labour leader would be popular north of the border, though, rather sad as many areas used to be Labour strongholds, resulting in Scottish PMs and Ministers to Westminster.
The rise of the SNP has ensured Tory victories in the UK.

Isn't it funny how some are unable to look at a question objectively and assess the realities of the situation but prefer to make it a personal insult or introduce their own status as an answer.
Boris won the Northern seats purely on Brexit. Starmer is a passionate and long standing Remainer So strike one against him. He is a southerner, a Londoner to be exact-strike 2 against him He is a lawyer-strike 3. I'm not saying I think this, I am saying there are many who will. Still let us wait and see. Perhaps I am wrong and the North will welcome him with open arms

If titles don’t belong to the socialist party how come there are
socialists in the Lords !

Well said Annie!

Annie ??

You can call him Sir if you wish to paddyanne but he does prefer not to use it. It was not an hereditary title btw.
Rather like Sir Alexander McEwen, Sir George Reid

Corbyn was born in Wiltshire and has lived in London for about 50 years

He has to take a middle road because if you hit companies and investors too hard they pay less tax, so the government has less to spend on infrastructure and services.

I think that the current 'emergency' government spending measures are proof that that way of thinking is now completely blown out of the water.

You don't for one moment believe that all the billions that are being poured into the economy at present a) come out of taxation, or b) think that it's all going to be taxed back from us at some point in the future? Was all the £240+ billion of QE to save the banks in 2008 'taxed back' from us? No it wasn't.

What you are doing is acquiescing in the 'national economy is the same as a household economy' myth. If enough people can be kept believing in this as soon as this crisis is over the 'establishment' (all the low tax, free market rightwingers) will be cracking down with more 'austerity' for the less wealthy to bear. Which is not only a totally discredited economic 'theory' but will destroy what little 'real' economy we will have left.

'austerity' left the NHS on its knees and ill prepared to cope with this crisis

Sorry, thread has moved on a lot since I wrote that post... I thought I'd sent it much earlier.

Thise who don't rate Starmer because they think he is a posh, titled, educated southerner and not left wing enough may have to put their prejudices to one side if they ever want to entertain the hope of ousting the Tories and seeing in another Labour Government.

Sorry, but if you fail to do that then you will shoot yourselves in the foot and see the end of the Labour party and any hope of having either a credible Opposition or a future Government.
What will the future be like then?

That's actually a bit simplistic Trisher, it wasnt just about Brexit in the North. Something to do with ambition as well and a view that the labour party was irrelevant to the North. Perhaps assumptions about the working class they claim to represent. The union issue for example, I work in a sector mainly staffed by poorly paid women, not one is in a union, discussion of trade union legislation would have no relevance for them whatsoever.
Starmer comes from a working class background not that I care one way or the other about that. Corbyns early life was not one of deprivation. Again none of this is relevant, this kind of identity politics is not good for the labour party.

Ah, but Annie, Corbyn moved oop North, albeit only as far as the Midlands and on the border with Wales.