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According to Matt Hancock there are sufficient supplies of PPE equipment around. But the evidence from NHS staff contradicts that.
A third of UK surgeons and surgical trainees do not believe they have an adequate supply of personal protective equipment (PPE) in their trust, with wide regional variations, a survey has found.
More than half of those who responded (57%) to the Royal College of Surgeons (RCS) of England survey said there have been shortages in the past 30 days.
The survey of nearly 2,000 surgeons and trainees showed a postcode lottery when it comes to PPE. More than half (52%) of respondents in the Thames Valley said they now have access to adequate PPE, but that dropped to just over a third (34.7%) in the North West.
In London, which has been at the heart of the outbreak in the UK, a third (33.4%) of respondents said they do not believe their trust has an adequate supply of PPE.
^ survey was carried out after improved PPE guidance was issued by NHS England at the beginning of April ^
Sue Hill, RCS vice president, said:
The guidance is now much improved, but we have consistently said that advice about what protection to use for which medical procedures is rendered meaningless if the kit doesn’t reach the front line.
More than half of those responding to the survey also expressed scepticism about their chances of getting a Covid-19 test for themselves, should they need one.
Confidence was particularly low in the East of England, where 75% of surgeons said they believed they would not get access to a test.
One surgeon, who responded to the survey said:
The lack of mask wearing in general patient contact has been scandalous.
I caught Covid-19 from a patient on the ward who was pre-symptomatic but later tested positive. He infected at least six staff. One of my colleagues remains very sick from this.
I was denied a test even on appeal. We were ‘spoken to’ for wearing simple masks and gloves in general ward areas. We agreed to submit to authority but strongly disagreed that there was no risk.
The RCS is urging its members not to risk their health, and that of their patients, by carrying out risky procedures without adequate PPE
1/3 of NHS staff still struggling to get PPE at times.
www.itv.com/news/2020-04-27/third-of-doctors-in-high-risk-covid-19-areas-still-unable-to-access-ppe-survey/?fbclid=IwAR0uPHXfrFsH6Js1OdjSSmXycETaJlgY6Gn0jMjAqoCCD86udvpzIy73aCA
The British Firm Printers Prime Group of Nottingham faced sending 5000,000 visors abroad after government failed to buy them will now send them to NHS after officials finally got in touch.
Reported in Mirror Wednesday how PPG transformed its operation and took 30 extra staff to make up to one million visors a month.
It delivered 350,000 to Care staff for free or at cost, but despite contacting officials in March central government placed no orders.
But yesterday Jon Tolley revealed contact had finally been been made as result of Mirror story.
Matt Hancock has pledged to accelerate the progress of replying to 8,000 companies which have made offers to help in the crisis.
What the govenment dobt realise is that you cant wear the same Ppe for every shift.you need a clean one..this government needs a kick up the rear end.they dont like paying out money to anyone
It wasn't a non starter. It has organised the deals and is now taking orders. The UK failed to join the scheme. The scheme did not prevent each country from buying in it's own right which is what they've been doing whilst it was being organised. Now it is ready to provide equipment which will mean that, unlike the UK, EU countries who have opted to take part will no longer have to join in the general world wide scramble for supplies.
Hancock has said that we're part of the scheme but we're not. The plan is to join if it opens to other countries that could have joined but, like the UK, failed to do so.
Lots of fake news and untruths being spread around by the media.
So where has your 'news' come from, then, Firecracker?
And how do you know that it isn't 'fake news' as well?
Any evidence for that Firecracker123. There is substantial evidence from manufacturers of masks and PPE equipment that the British government has consistently failed to respond to offers of supply and that therefore the equipment has been sent to the EU.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/20/exclusivemillions-pieces-ppe-shipped-britain-europe-despite/
The EU scheme hasn't supplied any PPE to anyone it was a non starter.
Lots of fake news and untruths being spread around by the media.
Exactly. Joins 'the PPE is on it's way', 'the EU didn't let us join in their purchasing of PPE', 'we're having ventilators designed and made' when they were already designed and being made in this country by specialist firms and all the other half truths and outright lies the government have been telling us.
vampirequeen, it's just a case of being able to say 'We have a testing site near Epsom' - and that's quite good enough, apparently.
Meanwhile, on the front line, a nurse in a Covid ward had mild symptoms. She was told to carry on working - as all the patients had it anyway - and she was needed. (Define 'it' though, aren't there many mutations?) That's the reality.
Apparently the testing site near Epsom was run by an accounting firm. The local hospital gave up using it because a lot of the results were either not arriving or being sent to the wrong people.
Can someone explain to me what expertise an accountancy firm has that leads someone to think they'd be brilliant at medical testing? I was daft because I thought they were being organised by the army (which we already pay for) with it's medical staff and logistical skills. Is this another example of money for pals rather than money being used to organise/supply the best service/product possible?
(double pasted - some how) I'll try again:
Yogadatti, it will become crystal clear, in future, how well our government has managed the situation.
'You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time'
(Lincoln didn't really say that, though.)
Message withdrawn at poster's request.
You are
Eloethan: "Whose purpose does it serve to lie or to mislead?"
Right your Eloethan.
Mandy Rice Davies : They would say that wouldn't they
MH announced today that key workers and their families will be able to book online testing and this will be available for "millions of people"
So what's been going on in all those car parks at IKEA etc with the rows of tents?
A friend came back from northern Italy the delay before the lockdown there. She developed some symptoms and since she is a vulnerable person, contacted the NHS helpline. It took her nearly a week before she could get tested so what was going on? When she arrived at the testing centre there were only 2 or 3 cars there.
Luckily she had not contracted CV
Good post newnanny
47% of clinicians do not have access to long sleeved gowns.
I see that No 10 (Cummings) is beginning to distance itself from Hancock.
Obviously sees him as a loser
Okay growstuff Thank you.
This Tory government is good at propaganda, not good at all actually governing in the interests of all the people
Grany I've just posted about that on another thread. 128 accounts, apparently.
The DHSC Communications Team was responsible for the Sunday Times rebuttal. Somebody needs to come clean and be held to account for what's going on.
Anecdotally, I'd already noticed something odd on Sunday.
Now it seems the Department of Health has created hundreds of fake Twitter accounts, claiming to belong to NHS staff, in order to broadcast support for the government.
John O'Connell
@WestHertsNHS
Can you confirm that '@nhs_susan' here is a creation of the DHSC Communications Team, and not in fact, one of your hardworking staff at the Starfish Ward ?
Can you ask your staff member what she thinks of her image being used for automated #Tories Propaganda ?
twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1251185888434028545?s=20
True Whitewavemark2... but did you read the USA info?
That is on a different level.
spaghetti There is altruism and downright stupidity
It’s just the matter of that pesky PPE gap in the middle, isn’t it...
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