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Remember BREXIT has it made COVID-19 worse here?

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Cindersdad Mon 13-Apr-20 06:16:42

I'm pleased for Boris that he is well on the mend but we must not let the current situation make him a Hero when Brexit is a self inflicted mistake boosted by deceit from Boris and his odious side kick Dominic Cummings. With our economy even more weakened by COVID-19 we need solidarity with Europe even more now.

COVID-19 started in China and China is now planning to use the world situation to get even more power over the rest of us. They are still a secretive, ruthless government though giving some help now in a problem they started are never to be trusted in trade. Masters of intellectual property theft.

As a country we need to make more ourselves and only buy from China when we have to unless we are content to become a satellite province of that odious regime.

Time will show that extreme capitalism as here and in the US is almost as bad for humanity as the Chinese way. Learn from countries like Denmark and New Zealand.

varian Thu 11-Jun-20 12:51:19

Please sign this petition to omit the NHS from any trade deals with the USA

petition.parliament.uk/signatures/85029104/signed

varian Tue 09-Jun-20 14:12:56

Brexit, not the pandemic or anything else, is the number one priority of this government. Ministers have been selected, not for competence, (most of them are grossly incompetent), but for their willingness to do whatever the Vote Leave idealogues, led by Cummings dictate.

MayBee70 Tue 09-Jun-20 12:59:17

Why don’t people seem concerned that the very people that are handling the pandemic so badly are the very same people that are handling brexit?

Pantglas2 Tue 09-Jun-20 11:55:21

Achyfi! Who does any of that to Quaker Oats? Can people not just turn to the freezer/fruit bowl if they need to adulterate them?

varian Tue 09-Jun-20 10:28:59

As if brexit was not bad enough, a no-deal brexit would make us putty in the hands of the USA. The agriculture bill already sneaked through means we can look forward to food like this.

EllanVannin Thu 04-Jun-20 07:42:45

Grandad1943, so many other countries have done well too !
China for example with their population of millions but also with their skills and selflessness in the nursing profession prevented an enormous catastrophe by containing the pandemic.

We're still plodding on 6 months later ! 2nd worse for deaths !

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jun-20 07:34:03

The FT is reporting that Johnsons government is struggling to replenish the drugs used in the pandemic.

It is particularly concerned to get stocks in good order as Johnson’s government knows that there will be shortages and severe supply difficulties after 1/1/21.

This of course includes food etc.

MaizieD Wed 03-Jun-20 14:30:27

Some Leave voters who worked there said it didn't matter if Nissan did go, though. Leaving the EU would more than compensate for penury...

MayBee70 Wed 03-Jun-20 14:28:33

But the leave campaign categorically stated that Nissan wouldn’t leave the U.K. if people voted to leave the UK.

MaizieD Wed 03-Jun-20 14:19:39

That needs a new thread, varian. Just to keep the title in plain sight for the Leavers' attention. They won't see it here...

varian Wed 03-Jun-20 13:23:06

Britain’s largest car factory may still not have a future if the UK leaves the European Union without a trade deal in place, Nissan has stated.

The Japanese firm’s Sunderland plant, which employs 7000 workers and made 350,000 cars last year, received a boost last week when Nissan confirmed it is committed to making it the centre of its European production operations.

However, the company's global chief operating officer claims that it's still at risk if a no-deal Brexit occurs.

Ashwani Gupta told the BBC: “You know we are the number one car maker in the UK and we want to continue. We are committed. Having said that, if we aren't getting the current tariffs, it’s not our intention, but the business will not be sustainable. That’s what everybody has to understand”.

www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/nissan-sunderland-plant-%E2%80%9Cunsustainable%E2%80%9D-without-brexit-deal

Deedaa Mon 01-Jun-20 20:11:05

Jabberwok the government will be letting us down if they continue to push for a No Deal Brexit (which is not something that we all wanted) on top of the massive recession which is likely to result from the pandemic.

Cindersdad Mon 01-Jun-20 19:02:51

To explain.

'Time will show that extreme capitalism as here and in the US is almost as bad for humanity as the Chinese way. Learn from countries like Denmark and New Zealand.'

True population density is a factor but the countries with the highest death rates are currently US, UK and Brazil. All 3 have right wing populist governments with ineffective leaders. In the UK the situation is worsened by the controlling influence of Dominic Cummings who the rules he was partly responsible for, Boris Johnson must really be under his thumb not to sack him.

Jabberwok Mon 01-Jun-20 16:47:22

Not to mention a completely useless opposition with the worst leader ever! This could perhaps have had some bearing on the Tory landslide!! Only a thought of course!!??

varian Mon 01-Jun-20 13:10:18

The majority never voted for this government and I know this is old news, but at no time did the majority want brexit or vote for it. A large number of those who did vote for it in 2016 did so on the basis of promises that we would leave with a great deal, not no deal.

Jabberwok Mon 01-Jun-20 12:18:31

The vote leave government are exactly what was voted for at the GE! Why would they not fulfill what the majority voted for not once but four times?! The haven't let anybody down , they are what the majority voted for. A majority the other way round would have been exactly the same!

varian Mon 01-Jun-20 11:12:28

The good people of this country have been badly let down by this Vote Leave government which has pushed brexit - almost certainly a no-deal brexit, no matter how much harm will be done, with a breathtaking degree of dishonesty.

www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/0601/1143712-house-of-lords-irish-protocol/

Greta Mon 01-Jun-20 10:51:14

Yes, Grandad, you are right. I think many people have shown exemplary behaviour. They have been unselfish, hard working and beavering away in extreme circumstances. I take my hat off to them. I hope that when we are back to some sort of normality we will remember to value everybody regardless if they are top scientists or hospital cleaners and regardless of where they originally come from.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 01-Jun-20 10:50:43

Up lifting post grandad

GrannyGravy13 Mon 01-Jun-20 10:43:21

Totally agree Grandad1943 ???

MaizieD Mon 01-Jun-20 09:58:51

Superb post @ 8.56, Grandad ????

Grandad1943 Mon 01-Jun-20 08:56:10

EllanVannin Quote [ So much wrong about this country.] End Quote.

EllanVannin, there is also so much that is good and right about this country as the last three months have so well demonstrated.

In the above, those who work within the NHS have proven what a wonderful selfless asset they are to Britain by way of all they have carried out.

You also have all those that work in supply and distribution who have worked often very long hours in conditions that can never be made anything like one hundred percent safe to maintain food supplies to the supermarkets etc.

You then have all who work in electricity, gas, water and sewerage etc, many of whom have had to live at their workplaces to ensure that those crucial services are maintained.

In the last week, we have seen many employers working exceptionally long hours to ensure that their workplaces and practices are as safe as they can be possibly made in advance of the return of their employees.

Oh yes, the above are the persons that have made Britain a place that contains so much that is good and right throughout this crisis, and that has been to the benefit and maintenance of all who have been locked down during the entire period.

varian Sun 31-May-20 19:41:15

JENNY HARRIES AGREES WITH PROF JONATHAN VAN-TAM'S COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE OBEYING LOCKDOWN RULES

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-jenny-harries-joins-fellow-22116332

EllanVannin Sat 30-May-20 19:58:41

So much wrong about this country.

varian Sat 30-May-20 19:41:48

The Cummings affair has diverted attention from the so-called brexit negotiations which are a charade.

John Keiger, writing in The Spectator considers that " A no-deal Brexit is now all but inevitable"

www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-no-deal-brexit-is-now-all-but-inevitable