The Sunday Times article. Can anyone defend Johnson after reading this?

I will have a go at your quiz coggie just for fun.
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1. Why do people refer to him by his first name as if he was some sort of cuddly toy?

A. Boris is very popular. He uplifts us with his optimism. We love him for it.
Remember the digger crashing through the polystyrene bricks?
‘Get Brexit Done’ ?
He’s our man.
Eat your heart out Starmer.

2. Why did he fail to attend 5 Cobra meetings?
A. Erm... because the PM has Ministers of departments who attend and report back?
I think it’s called delegating.

3. Why did he become ill?
A. Because he mixed with other Cabinet members and scientists who were brewing the virus?
Don’t say he shook the hands of people in hospital.
I give you more credit than that!

I think that what gives this report relative credence is that is confirms what we believe to be true.

Sorry Grandad 1943, not 1945. I did read the report, I didn’t see MG on tv is what I meant.

This reminds me of the recent 800+ page report leak which had Grandad1945 spitting feathers, in that I read a variety of opinions about it (including one in the Morning Star!) and there couldn’t have been a wider spectrum of who thought what and who was at fault. My point is that everyone does have some sort of bias - eg one of the authors of the Times piece is described as a ‘disgruntled civil servant’ and although I haven’t seen it, it was dismissed by Michael Gove on TV. There is no black and white in this.

Alex Wickham is hardly neutral and non-partisan.

I am not at all surprised (although, disgusted) with the increasng popularity if Johnson and co. In times of crisis, so many adults desperately need to feel that SOMEONE is in charge AND knows what they are doing. No matter how much proof is shown that nobody is in charge, and advice on all matters seem to change weekly.
However, when this crisis starts to pass, with many tens of thousands of people having lost their lives, and more evidence comes out as to the crass incompetence of the government, people may then start to query their slavish following of the govenment (who has totally failed to govern).
what I have learned on here is that the Sunday Times is a wing of the Labour Party - wow!! never knew that, sure the Labour Party does not know that either. Or is it that any journalist that actually writes and newspapers that print articles giving facts and figures are now part of the opposition.
Dreadful that this country was even trying to get three days supply of PPE from Turkey, even more dreadful that the lies that it was on the way to be here today (Sunday), now we know they really have no idea if and when this will get here, In the meantime what are the front line nurses and doctors supposed to do.
UKis likely to be finish with the worst death figures both percent of the population and in actual numbers in Europe - how could anyone defend any government that has led us into this?

Alex Wickham at Buzzfeed says that article is bollocks*. The link is to a thread explaining why.

* My choice of words not his.

Firecracker “. I see the usual sarcastic left leaning posters are out in force now a joint effort it seems to try and make fun of other GN posters who you don't agree with how childish and pathetic. Some posters must have sad lives.“

This works both ways Firecracker.

Anybody want to have a bash at my quiz?

Urmstongran So if there is any shortage of of anything it is due to the NHS procurement department
Much has been made on GN over time about how the government had to run on a budget like anyone's household. If you use the same analogy it isn't possible to purchase something if you don't have the cash and the NHS has been starved of funds by this Tory government.So whichever way you look at it long term cuts and short term planning for a pandemic have all led to this disaster and are the fault of Tory governments.

When Andrew Marr spoke to Michael grove he admitted that Boris hadn’t attended the five meetings of cobra was quick to move on. Don’t think I’ll believe anything now just like everyone wish it was over and I was back to work earning my living. So sad foe all these unnecessary deaths if we’d acted sooner.

A few weeks ago government advisors crassly stated that fewer than 20000 deaths would be a very good result for the U.K..

We are way beyond that figure already. And it is thought that the U.K. will come out of this with the worst record than any other European country.

We have the report in The Times to explain why.

It looks like you don't know about Pooh though...

it's the usual left jibing and moaning, bound to happen since The Marx brothers [also known as the Chuckle Brothers] failed dismally to get into power last year. Everything the government does will get the same treatment for the next five (possibly ten!) years...….not worth worrying about.

Oh dear jabberwok I think that you can assume we know about Pooh. I’m not jibing at the Tories on here - no point- I am jibing at this wretched Tory government.

Tigger didn't have a little brain, It was Pooh who was ' A bear of very little brain '!
firecracker, just ignore the leftie jibes, they're honestly not worth rising to still less arguing over!

ug nope wrong.

The simple and undeniable truth is that the government is solely responsible in times of crises.

They were strongly advise in 2017 of the supplies including PPE that needed to be in storage should something like this happen. THE GOVERNMENT CHOSE TO IGMORE THE ADVICE.

The NHS is NOT RESPONSIBLE for emergency planning of this sort. Yes day to day procurement but that is all.

The government has a chance to redeem itself in February, BUT DID NOTHING.

The blame lies entirely with the Tory government.

1. Why do people refer to him by his first name as if he was some sort of cuddly toy?

2. Why did he fail to attend 5 Cobra meetings?

3. Why did he become ill?

* distributing PPE

Let’s remember though the simple and undeniable TRUTH IS that the NHS are responsible for purchasing medicines and supplies. They have a procurement department. So if there is any shortage of of anything it is due to the NHS procurement department.

This is the same department that pay way over the odds for many items e.g £5 for for a packet to aspirin costing pennies in a supermarket Apportion blame and responsibility to the correct persons!

I think Public Health England will get a huge shake up after all this. No wonder Boris has put a new Minister in charge of procuring PPE!

Tigger has tested out one excuse saying that not enough nhs staff are coming forward for testing. Oh Tigger of little brain do buck up.

Whitwave It was probably the Easter Bunny's fault. It made a mistake and left Tigger off the list.

This is not about Brexit - it is about a PM who did not take the threat seriously and left us all in danger.

Any government of left or right who did this would be open to censure, and quite rightly.

I don't have a sad life either. Since when has valid criticism been childish and pathetic?

I try to maintain a sense of humour about this dystopia and the blinkered people operating in it.

The days are counting down to 100000 tests a day by the end of April.

Anyone like to guess the excuse that will be given when the deadline comes and goes?

No firecracker, I don't have a sad life, I am fortunate that I have not lost any friends or family to this disaster. Please stop with the silly leftie jibes, I am not, have never been one. Now, I must get on with my busy life, and leave you to look for insults where none were intended. Maybe you left them in the same place as your sense of humour.