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Is this good news?

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GabriellaG54 Sat 25-Apr-20 10:33:04

Hello people ??
Well, good news or good news?
According to today's updates, government is thinking about letting us each choose up to 10 close family or/and friends to share childcare, eat meals together and socialise within the home.
Nicola S has also made the same noises and a dafter idea I never heard.
Some noses will definitely be put out of joint. Cries of discrimination heard from those whose family are abroad or they themselves are stuck abroad (Urmstongran for one)
Police will never in a million years be able to check which 10 you have nominated (and you have to keep to the same 10 people, no changes)
The 10 you nominate may not be the 10 your son or friends would nominate but all those gathered cannot see anyone outside that group IYSWIM as you are locked into the same people.
Will there be a travel distance limit? Will under 5s count as 1 of your 10?... babies?...teens?
How will transporting children to share childcare work out?
There will be NO outside gatherings.
Far far too many questions and no concrete answers.
Like trying to keep water in a net.
They might as well let us all mingle and have done with it.
Something else for us to huff n puff over.
They think it will take a week or two to give definitive 'orders'.
Talk amongst anyone?

MawB Sat 25-Apr-20 10:50:38

I’m getting a sense of déjà vu confused
(Isn’t this the same post you posted on Good Morning? )

GabriellaG54 Sat 25-Apr-20 11:08:12

Unfortunately, yes MawB ??
I realised that I might be accused of appropriating the gentle Good Morning thread for news which could, more properly, be accomodated here, although more posters might well view it in the aforementioned thread.

Oopsminty Sat 25-Apr-20 11:10:18

Like trying to keep water in a net.


I've just posted about this on the Over 70 thread. I think it was Over 70.

The people in our cluster will consist of people who have their own cluster.

Doomed to fail

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 11:10:43

Oh yes!

I have been so carried away with GN I forgot coffee!

I think New Zealand is trying this method.
Perhaps we should wait and see.

Oopsminty Sat 25-Apr-20 11:17:15

No, I posted mine on the lockdown fraying thread.

I have 3 AC who all have children/spouses/partners in 3 different households

So goodness knows what we'd do.

When I first read it I thought it sounded like a good idea but after thinking about it decided it wouldn't work

I also have 11 in my immediate family! So does that mean we leave one of them out?

Tea for me, please!

paddyanne Sat 25-Apr-20 11:18:03

This is not being proposed by NS.she has daily said that lockdown will continue for a long time and that there will need to be a new normal when it ends .IF we get it under some control like NZ and Greece then that scheme may be possible .

Jane10 Sat 25-Apr-20 11:20:46

Today's paper says clearly 'Nicola Sturgeon has raised the prospect of people meeting a small bubble of people outside their own households'.

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 11:21:13

Did you miss her speech where she said small bubbles of people could meet as restrictions eased then?

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 11:22:07

X posts

Sorry, mine was to paddyanne
In fact, I heard her

Grandad1943 Sat 25-Apr-20 11:23:43

I believe everyone should just be patient and wait to see what will actually be announced. The whole world is in an unprecedented crisis and governments can only make decisions on data as and when it becomes available.

Therefore whether it is when the lockdown will be eased,or who we can meet and under what circumstances, then only time and patience will hopefully yield results.

The whole point of the lockdown is to prevent the NHS from being totally overwhelmed by the crisis and through that save lives. We seem to be achieving the foregoing but further patience will be required by all for a considerable period of time to maintain that which is at present ongoing.

GagaJo Sat 25-Apr-20 11:26:47

I think two things.

1) Lockdown should probably continue for 3 months in total. I can't remember where I read the 12 week figure at the beginning of lockdown, but it seemed sensible and is now fixed in my head (possibly irrationally).

2) AFTER the 12 weeks, yes, maybe Bubble Theory. It relies on trust of the population, but then to be honest, the idiots are still being idiots now. The sensible ones will do it properly.

Toadinthehole Sat 25-Apr-20 11:27:45

That would suit us, and we KNOW we would stick to it. There’s always going to be an element of people who break the law whatever, but I think the governments plan for this.

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 11:28:01

When it has peaked and, if restrictions are lifted, it does not mean it will have gone away, just that, as Grandad says, the NHS will be in a better position to cope with the numbers.

It may be that lockdown would be eased as long as people observe strict social distancing rules.

Chestnut Sat 25-Apr-20 11:28:44

It's just bonkers. Aren't they saying two households of up to 10 people? I can't see that changes anything for us as there are too many separate households involved in our families (including in-laws). And it can only increase the risk for oldies if they mix with the rest of the family.

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 11:31:03

The 12 weeks Stay at Home is for those who were advised by letter that they are in the shielded category.
It goes up to 16th June but what happens after that is not yet known, we have to wait to see what evolves.

Anniebach Sat 25-Apr-20 11:31:27

I don’t know 10 people

Jabberwok Sat 25-Apr-20 11:37:52

You know me Annie ??!!

Harris27 Sat 25-Apr-20 11:43:36

Aw just to see my sons and grandkids bliss!

MawB Sat 25-Apr-20 11:50:45

Fair do’s GabriellaG - I await the responses with bated breath!

MawB Sat 25-Apr-20 11:52:58

I believe everyone should just be patient and wait to see what will actually be announced

Very true Grandad -but have you ever heard of that happening on GN? hmm

Oopsminty Sat 25-Apr-20 11:54:08

Another thought is what if we don't make the cut of one of our chosen fews cluster?

Younger adults may be desperate to see their friends

I think it could cause upset

Eglantine21 Sat 25-Apr-20 11:58:01

If we can get the infection rate down and if we can get a tracking app for most of the population then expanding your cluster of contacts should be viable.

But first we haveto get the infection rate down and that means continuing to isolate.

GrannySomerset Sat 25-Apr-20 11:58:19

I fear that by the time the family could choose to include me in their bubble I will have become such a miserable old bat that they won’t want me!

Fiachna50 Sat 25-Apr-20 12:05:33

This will never work. People will take the p***,the same as some are doing with the 'exercise' and supposed lockdown which judging by the amount of cars on the road seems to be getting less strict by the day. I hope we don't end up with another peak the way things are going. The situation is not being taken seriously and many seem to be treating it like a holiday.