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Is the Home Office betraying us?

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NannyC2 Tue 05-May-20 20:15:53

Just watched a video taken early yesterday morning (Mon) with Nigel Farage in East Sussex.
Border Forces picked up people from a boat that was crammed full of immigrants and began ferrying them into Dover The BF are supposed to protect us not be a taxi service, and yet, that is apparently what the Home Office is telling them to do.
A second vessel arrived - how many others would have followed?
Some may be legitimate but how many aren't? There is a proper system which should be used.
What is the state of their health? Are they carrying Covid 19 with potential of spreading the virus further?
The media is all into Covid but nothing being reported about more and more people arriving on our shores! Shouldn't we be concerned?

Franbern Wed 06-May-20 11:22:15

Meant to add, why is NF still in this country - thought he would be happily esconced in USA with his idol - Trump

Franbern Wed 06-May-20 11:19:49

Find it difficult to believe that there are still some horrible people who just cannot think of these poor people risking their lives on these little boats as human beings.
Obviously, they should have been rescued, taken somewhere safe, tested for CV19 (and other illnesses) given appropriate treatment.
Heigh - when they are well this country desperately needs so many people willing to do hard work on our farms, etc. They could then be offered jobs there. Win-win.
Would people like the OP be willing to be the ones who would push these poor people back into the ocean and watch them down?

FarNorth Wed 06-May-20 11:15:35

That may be so, JenniferEccles, but at the point when they arrive something must be done with them, even if that has a final result of them being deported.

JenniferEccles Wed 06-May-20 10:55:06

I think a lot on here are missing the point.

Even if the immigrants were escaping poverty or a war torn country , they were safe as soon as they arrived in Europe.

The rules say they should seek asylum from the first safe country they reach.

Illegal immigrants turning up in boats on the Kent or Sussex coasts have come from France.

Therefore those attempting to reach our shores are economic migrants. With our overstretched NHS now is not the time to be adding to its workload.

trisher Wed 06-May-20 09:17:17

Personally if I have to push someone out to sea with a pitchfork I'd rather it was Nigel Farage. Or could we just quarantine him somewhere and forget about him?
"He never will be missed!"

Riverwalk Wed 06-May-20 08:42:33

or do you mean the BF should be repelling them with pitchforks, jabbing them back out to sea, and holing their boats.

Oh, there are plenty on here who would do just that!

Iam64 Wed 06-May-20 08:18:14

What a ridiculous idea, that the BF is being used as a taxi service. Desperate people are attempting to get into various European countries, including this one. I agree that these people should be quarantined, so should anyone arriving here by plane or sea, whether they are rich, poor, British nationals or visitors.
Farage is a disgusting, racist, populist individual. He shouldn't have made this journey for any reason.

We should not forget that Pritti Patel wouldn't be living in this country if her current rules on immigration had been in force when her parents arrived.

Just look at the nationalities, the countries of origin of so many workers in care homes and the NHS . We could hope that this world wide pandemic could nudge some racist bigots into a bit of humanity but evidently not.

yggdrasil Wed 06-May-20 07:18:37

I can't help thinking how bad things must be where these people come from, to risk their lives trying to get to this unwelcoming and disease-ridden country

vegansrock Wed 06-May-20 07:10:27

So how exactly are the home office letting us down in this case?
Should they have pushed them back into the sea?
I’m sure some on here would say yes.

quizqueen Wed 06-May-20 00:49:09

Easy to criticise Nigel for travelling in his job as a reporter and broadcaster for LBC on 'non essential' business but no criticism for non essential journeys across the channel. Oh, the irony. Anyway, it didn't happen, no immigrants are coming, no flights are coming. The moderators accused me of lying when I said this in a previous post and threatened to ban me and they, of course, know best.

maddyone Wed 06-May-20 00:30:49

I agree with FarNorth everyone entering the country should be tested and quarantined, whoever they are, and however they arrive.

Callistemon Tue 05-May-20 23:56:48

PNP
Professional Nosy Parker

He should resign from his post forthwith for non-essential travel
Oh ! does he have a job from which to resign?
confused

FarNorth Tue 05-May-20 23:53:34

Everyone coming into the UK should be quarantined, whether refugees in boats or millionaires in jets - but it isn't happening.

MawB Tue 05-May-20 23:36:10

Nigel Farage has a cheek trying to claim he had a professional reason for travelling to Dover.
He is not employed as a journalist, having been, in no particular order a
Politician
Spokesperson for his Brexit party
Commodity broker
(Pain in the ar*e and professional busybody do not seem to feature but I leave you to complete your own list)
But his 100 mile journey was NOT essential and I don’t know why he has not been fined in the same way many others have.

welbeck Tue 05-May-20 23:34:52

i don't understand the point the OP is making, about Border Force being a taxi service. obviously they have to convey them to wherever the BF office is to process them.
what is the alternative, let them wander around wherever they land, or do you mean the BF should be repelling them with pitchforks, jabbing them back out to sea, and holing their boats. / > ?

Callistemon Tue 05-May-20 23:27:07

EllanVannin unfortunately a country with a higher number of citizens may well find that they have more deaths from this virus than a country with a smaller population.

Belgium has a far higher number of deaths per capita than anywhere else in Europe, followed by Spain and Italy then the UK.
Other countries worldwide may report wildly inaccurate numbers.

I do hope the numbers here will reduce rapidly and we should ensure that all immigrants and arrivals from any direction are tested and if necessary quarantined, otherwise we will not see the end of this, as the article from the Guardian says, which Chewbacca quoted.

Luckygirl Tue 05-May-20 23:13:32

Let us not lose our humanity.

vickymeldrew Tue 05-May-20 23:07:45

Nigel Farage lives in Westerham. Apparently two police officers went to his home and offered ‘words of advice’ on his ‘unnecessary’ journey to Dover.

GagaJo Tue 05-May-20 23:04:48

What would you prefer? Push them back into the sea and let bodies wash up on British beaches?

Luckygirl Tue 05-May-20 23:02:38

Does NF live in East Sussex?

MaizieD asks the crucial question - what are they to do?

MaizieD Tue 05-May-20 22:54:19

What are Border Force supposed to do? Tell them to go away and die?

JenniferEccles Tue 05-May-20 22:48:19

Yes we certainly should be concerned about this.

The Border Force is effectively acting as a water taxi service.

So much for Prity Patel insisting that stopping illegal immigration was a priority.

EllanVannin Tue 05-May-20 22:31:20

Why have we become the worst country in Europe for letting our people die of this virus ?? It's going to reach 50,000---mark my words, it's a disgrace !!

Dinahmo Tue 05-May-20 22:15:14

Grannyjay The highest numbers of deaths throughout Europe are in densely populated areas - ie cities and large towns- throughout Europe. The UK is no different in that respect.

Have you not noticed the large numbers of front line workers who are from overseas? Not noticed the numbers of those who appear on our tv screens who have died?

Dinahmo Tue 05-May-20 22:00:03

So what was NF doing at the coast? Apparently he travelled 100 miles to get there to stand in front of the sea when he could have stood in front of some film of the sea. Why should he be allowed to do that?