Population losing faith with Johnson.

I wake up in the morning, remembering it's Ground Hog Day. Reading threads like this one just confirms that - I'm off for a walk.
Whitewave - thanks for your OP. Im happy with Starmer's leadership so far, and with his policies. (whoops, sorry, I said it again)

Fennel, in regard to your post @ 18:25 today, should Starmer try to take the Labour Party down the same policy path that Blair was given the freedom to carry out, then I do not believe that the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) will exist for very long into the future.

The Labour Party is already facing insolvency over past actions and any move away from what are the core socialist polices of the whole Labour movement would most definitely seal the fate of the PLP in regard to its future

The trade unions and other affiliate organisations will never again allow any Labour leader to change the structures and organisation of the Labour movement to the extent that was allowed to happen under Blair.

Grany.... Kathy Burke and MM are both foulmouthed attention seekers.
If you like that sort of thing then you will find it amusing.
Anyone who prefers dry wit or genuine humour, wouldn’t.

Some people never had faith in Johnson

Kathy Burk

Using her vernacular

"I said many a time that Boris will never be PM cos he’s a fucking charlatan and people have enough common sense to see that"

And Miriam Margoyles called Boris blowjob, ha ha on The Last Leg I think that's funny suits him more than Bojo the clown.

As a longstanding Labour supporter ( and in the past active worker for them) I voted for Corbyn as leader, with the proviso that he could unite the various factions.
I should have known that this wasn't a priority for him. Still sad though, that he ended up crucified. (JC).
Perhaps Starmer will become a modern day Tony Blair. having to compromise by abandoning old socialist principles.
If he ever had them?

And there’s always those who slag him off no matter what he does. Plenty on here.

Kenneth Clarke? Dominic Grieve?

Yesterday’s men.

There are always those who think the sun shines out if BJs backside whatever he says and does. Plenty on here.

Another thread, another Labour supporter banging on about a pipedream that they may win the next election, pie in the sky ........

I’m also very worried about this. The basic groundwork to get children safely back to school simply hasn’t been done. And very many of our current school buildings are old and poorly-maintained because of cash shortage over the years. It could be almost impossible to make some of them safe, I’d say.

Any other grandparents worried sick about their grandchildren being used as guinea-pigs in the rush to get schools & nurseries open with totally inadequate preparation?

I have 2 grandchildren who are in the specified years that are due back

Also my youngest daughter teaches in Year 1 and daughter-in-law is a Receptionist teacher so both due back at work.

Not very worried, mildly apprehensive more like.

Life does have to start again

We can't just stay in Lockdown forever or we'll be dying of other things.

The schools my relatives work in have been doing work throughout this pandemic on how they will be able to restart. There's a lot goes in behind the scenes.

I believe some parents might opt not to send the little ones back which is their choice, No fines either.

I think I'd have preferred a September start but it's not my choice!

The country also needs an effective government with the likes of Kenneth Clark, Dominic Grieve etc. I bet Johnson rues the day he got rid of them and replaced hem with wet behind the ears yes men. What is worrying is that I even find people like Raab and Eustace more statesmanlike than the PM.

Any other grandparents worried sick about their grandchildren being used as guinea-pigs in the rush to get schools & nurseries open with totally inadequate preparation? Scotland and N Ireland have stated unequivocally that schools won’t reopen before September. I’m assuming that also applies to nurseries. They’re not recommending face-masks for under 2s - but as we all know, it’s difficult enough to keep socks on a toddler, never mind face-masks.

It's early days but I can see that Starmer is Johnson's nightmare. I suspect he will be on the ropes more often than not. The most worrying thing is that Johnson and the people behind him are tasked with leading the country out of this nightmare. The country needs an effective opposition to hold the government to account. To date it's seems to be Piers Morgan, which is a bit concerning. It will be interesting to see how things develop.

Another thread, another Tory banging on about the previous leader of Labour.

At the last survey I could see on YouGov from 23/4, 34% had a positive opinion of Boris, 47% had a negative opinion of him and 17% had a neutral opinion. I can’t see anything more recent but perhaps I’ve missed something that translates to ‘popular person’ in a way that doesn’t suggest more people have a negative or neutral opinion of him.

He wont be the only one thankful that he's not the PM at this time Witzend.

It wasn’t won solely on Brexit David ( as am sure you know.)
Elections are not won in any case by the best orator or those who have a love of ‘forensic detail’.
The Labour Party are just not popular at the moment, and haven’t been for a long time now.Corbyn being leader put the tin lid on it of course.
Boris Johnson is just a popular person ? (I know!!) and quite liked by both Conservative and Labour voters.
Starmer may, or may not, do well, we shall have to see.I can’t see BJ being replaced.

So why didn’t Labour sort itself out before the election, and vote in someone electable, like KS? Someone who would inspire confidence?
Instead, despite all the indications that he was going to be an electoral disaster, they stuck with a man who dithered and prevaricated over Brexit, and quite frankly gave the impression of a man who couldn’t find his a*se with both hands.

I bet he’s thinking his lucky stars that he doesn’t have to lead in a time of crisis.

Why would the Tory party want to change the leader that secured them a working majority in the last GE?

Starmer has been very measured in Parliament so far he has not been outright confrontational, when the time comes he will be more than a match for Boris. He knows that Boris was only elected because of Brexit, good with catchy slogans and bluster, hopeless on detail. All that is in years to come the Labour Party have got to unite and head in the same direction before any gains are made.

It could easily be that Tory leader is changed before the next election, there are several in the cabinet that are better debaters.

Nice copy and paste job there Joelsnan - thank goodness for The Mirror. Many of the policies and substance you’ve quoted (without the quote marks) and the rest in that newspaper are far from weak.

Starmer now has a higher net leadership rating than Johnson and ..........

What does it matter? BJ is the PM. There wont be another GE for another 4.5 years and surely with a world wide pandemic, there are more important things to be thinking about.

I’ve just read that the water board have had to issue a statement regarding Boris Johnson’s comment that the virus is in the water supply. It’s like was have our very own Trump: speak first think later (or perhaps not even that).

Once we come through this coronovirus (learning to live with it) and the economy fires up, grateful for the absolute assistance provided for by Rishi Sunak and we Brexit at the end of the year the electorate will return to the polls at the next GE elated we are doing more than hoped for.

Boris might find his next majority is higher than 80!