Tweet from Lord Sugar

growstuff Not you again. Just accept that you lost the election and stop being so bitter and twisted.

SalsaQueen At last someone who recognizes that Boris Johnson is bloody marvellous !!!!!!!!!!!! What a change from all the bitter and twisted lefties on some of these GN dialogues.

So is the infection/death rate bad in Gibraltar and Australia? I don’t quite get what point you’re trying to make especially if someone has been flying into the UK without quarantine.

I’ve just been speaking to my friend in Queensland who is watching our dismal news and is worried that England is in chaos.
I’ve told her it’s the press and Tv news giving all the bad news and non of the good.
She told me how much better Australia are handling the pandemic, completely closing all its borders and airports and in the next breathe, she tells me her ex has just flown back to Brisbane from Jakarta where he’s been working for the last 6 months.
My other friend in Gibraltar tells me of their strict lockdown but I know for a fact that someone else who lives there, had flown to UK and back in the last two weeks.
Other country’s are telling everyone how well they are doing, except the UK.
We need to stop it!

Is that the same Alan Sugar whose previous tweets include racist, sexist and homophobic ‘jokes’ and retweeted claims that covid was made in a lab and it was all a conspiracy?

Can you, EllanVanin please explain what is antisemitic about this post?

And this?

it just seemed pointless to point out racism, homophobia and all the rest when those who knew that Alan Sugar was Jewish.

Are you actually saying that being Jewish gives you carte blanche to be racist, sexist and homophobic?

This is quite bizarre...

I agree lemongrove, nobody knew the devastation it would/has caused.

There seems to be a distraction technique going along nicely now.
To get back to the OP....yes,I agree with Alan Sugar on this, the negativity is appalling from some quarters.Every country affected by this awful virus is doing what it can to keep it’s citizens healthy, care for them when they are ill, and try and keep some sort of normality going at the same time, including keeping food supplies going.That includes this country as well.
Too many armchair critics are having a depressing effect on other people, who are trying to get on with it.Whining won’t make a vaccine appear any faster.

It just seemed pointless to point out racism, homophobia and all the rest when those who knew that Alan Sugar was Jewish.
It reeked of double standards that's all, so what appears to have been the problem ?

If I'd been as quick off the mark as some of you, I'd have reported the remark, but knowing how sensitive some of you are on certain subjects I let it go-----because I have a more balanced attitude with these sorts of things because I'm not as blinkered. Pity you didn't too.

Maybe in the heat of the moment SC could/ perhaps have bitten his/her tongue after posting---I'll never know. I know I would, even though there are those who wouldn't flinch.

Thanks to Tickingbird for your explanation.

The comment can always be separated from the person. You cannot defend a personal attack. If Sc had said “that was a vile thing to say” it would, imo, be acceptable as we all have a right to comment. However, Sc said “You are vile”. Unacceptable.

What EllanVannin asked wasn't vile.

Yes it was Firecracker. She implied that the reason SirChenjin dislikes Alan Sugar was that he was Jewish.

Making unfounded accusations that someone is racist is vile in my opinion, and in this instance you can't separate the comment from the poster.

I don't agree with that tweet, whoever wrote it.

Alan Sugar's race? I have no idea and don't care.

Ignore! Ignore! And they might go away!
They just hate this thread but just can’t keep away!
Anyway! Firecracker123!
Yes! You and a lot of other people agree they are sick and tired of the Press and Tv News describing the situation in the UK in the worst possible way.
As notanan2 mentioned earlier, it is not only us who are reading this doom and gloom but the rest of the World.
Our country is one of the best in the World and we are managing this crisis very well, it’s about time some people supported the country in which they live.

Nobody mentioned Lord Sugar's race, firecraacker. Until EV came out with the comment that speaks more about the state of her mind than anybody else's.

Yes Buffybee the tweet by Lord Sugar is exactly how I feel. Thanks for highlighting it.

The trouble with our now PC world you are not allowed to mention race, colour, religion the list goes on.

What EllanVannin asked wasn't vile.

You cannot use that sort of personal insult.

Now I know where I stand, don't I ? ( I am vile am I ? ) Tut tut.

I must have hit a nerve there I suspect !

Not to worry, I've sussed out those who DO deserve that description.

As I said before Hetty, if this is boring you as you’ve discussed this subject before, just move on.
But, that’s not it, is it!
What you want is to close down this thread and any thread that you are not in agreement with, so you and your cohorts, hang around disparaging the discussion, in the hope of that outcome.

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So EllanVanin had no connection with what she wrote? It wasn't the product of an unpleasant thought process, tickingbird?

Why drag this up again? Hetty

Why shouldn’t we drag this up again, is what I say.
You and some others on here, seem to think that as something has been discussed before, it shouldn’t be again.
Well! Guess what! I didn’t see it before and probably a good percent didn’t either.
So WE are entitled to discuss it.
Just because something has been read by you and you cohorts before does not devalue it, as you are all insinuating.
You who have discussed this before and are bored of it, don’t discuss, move on but don’t try to stop others who haven’t seen it, discussing it. Ok!

MaizieD The poster called EllenVanin vile. That is totally different from saying the comment was vile.

Good question Nfk why are they not doing their best?

Yes MamaCaz I want realism too. It’s the job of the free press to question those in power. It’s the duty of the Daily Mail to express the right wing views of its masters and Lord Sugar to protect his billions.

We are fast heading for 40,000 Covid deaths. What’s there to praise? Those are people, real people, who have lost their lives and it wasn’t inevitable.

Things could and should have been organised better.