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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

Next one

GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:59:21

I’m doing both but without the stress??

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:58:58

And there you have it ............jealousy of wealth and privilege.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:58:04

Stop stressing and looking for stories and conspiracies folks, it's a lovely day for sitting in your garden/any outside space, reading a book and relaxing.

So much better for your mental health ?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:56:55

I’ll give you a clue.

“We are not part of the elite}

Sold to the working class vote in the north.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:55:20

Can't see anything wrong with the PM using Buckingham Palace tennis courts in his endeavour to regain his fitness post Covid.

The Royal,Family are not in residence.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:55:02

Trending

The Dim and Dom show.

We are a world embarrassment!!

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 11:54:33

Quite a few conspiracy stories now, and assertions ( put as fact) that neither Cummings or his wife were ever ill.
Just as on GN and other social media recently, a few posters asserted that Boris was never ill either.hmm

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 11:51:29

Since Johnson is the PM and still in recovery mode, why shouldn’t the Queen allow him to use the tennis court....it’s in London and near No 10.I doubt that she and Philip use it much these days.?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:45:48

I wonder if Cummings is joining him as he also recovers from the mysterious illness he never had.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:39:34

Blimey it gets worse!

Johnson has requested that he used Buckingham Palace garden, tennis court etc for his own private exercise.

“The Queen has given Boris Johnson approval to exercise in the grounds of Buckingham Palace as he continues to recover from Covid-19”
What about others recovering from Covid-19? There must lots of rooms for self-isolation. Are the invitations in the post?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:29:25

callistemon

Well the Agricultural Bill went through. You know the one that allows imported meat that has been raised in unhygienic conditions and full of hormones, anti biopics etc.
That means our own farmers will find it difficult to compete if they keep to our high welfare standards.

I think they must be quite pleased that that went through whilst everyone is looking elsewhere.

Our covid mortality figures remain one of the highest in the world, and after loosing control recently there is very likely to be an up tick of cases meaning more deaths.

The promised test and trace has not got off the ground as promised in time for the children’s return to school, putting yet more lives at risk.

There has been a report that states that acting too slowly at the beginning if the pandemic on Cummings instructions, has Caused untold thousand more deaths than would have been the case if the government had followed the scientific advise and ignored Cummings crackpot theory of herd immunity etc.

Lots more of course

merlotgran Wed 27-May-20 10:57:48

I believe the child tested negative so that casts doubt on whether or not DC and his wife had it.

I really do think the whole thing is a fairy story to cover up the fact they snuck off on a jolly knowing Boris was going downhill fast so unlikely to be contacting him.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 10:55:07

I'm not sure, Elegran. I think he is a manipulator and possibly he prefers to be the puppet master rather than the puppet.
He seems to wield the real power, whereas the power of a democratically elected MP or even PM is limited.

What is happening at the moment in other areas - surely not everything else in government is entirely on hold?

Perhaps I'm becoming far too cynical!

Elegran Wed 27-May-20 10:42:23

Callistemon Could it just possibly be that (I am fantasising here but . . ) he is now coming out of seclusion and speaking directly to the nation as a preliminary to starting up a publicly political career. He may think that appeals to those who would rather have "used their own judgment" and "Followed their instincts" and would back him in any contest for a successor to Boris Johnson as Prime Minister?

If the US can have a POTUS with no previous direct experience as part of a government, then he may think "Why not the UK?" He is confident enough of his own infallibility to want the job, and the taste of power that he has been experiencing has doubtless been exhilarating.

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-20 10:39:31

Not sure what to make of it all, but I must say, I am finding DC very attractive < lowers tone > grin

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 10:25:08

GGUmpteenth are you damning him for that

I don't need to. He and his wife have done that themselves quite successfully.

What is going on that this story, which is now dominating the headlines, has been leaked at this moment?
Could it be another part of his strategy?

He has become the story, instead of being part of the solution to this crisis.
He thinks he is so firmly entrenched that nothing will shift him. I just hope that there are enough Tory MPs with integrity to do that.

trisher Wed 27-May-20 10:21:09

Cummings is a strategist but one of the things he has relied on has been his anonymity. Few knew who was. He has been pictured sometimes going in and out No 10 but until then he was seldom seen. He no doubt thought he could pop up North and no-one would know. He forgot that there are people around there who have known him since childhood and he would be spotted.

nightowl Wed 27-May-20 10:01:25

If they were ill, they broke the law.

If they weren’t ill, they still broke the law. There’s really no way out of it I’m afraid, so they might as well stop trying to explain, making themselves look more foolish with every additional embellishment and contradiction.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 10:00:46

Oh that is a double negative?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 09:48:34

Cummings nor his wife haven’t been ill. They went on a jolly to Durham and apparently Northumberland.

There is simply no other explanation. If you analyse everything Cummings and his wife have said, there are so many holes in it that it is obvious that they have put together a tissue of lies. The trouble they have found is that they aren’t so clever as they thought they were, There can’t be any other explanation.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 09:44:20

Charlie Falconer
@LordCFalconer
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Jenrick says he takes his lead from the PM on whether Cummings broke the law. PM as judge on whether his chief adviser broke the law isn’t the way the rule of law works. It’s the most flagrant subversion of the law.

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 09:43:21

Actually Elegran Cummings /wife/child didn’t ‘spread it to granny’ as you say, they lived in a separate house.
Secondly, if one of them had the virus then almost certainly the child would get it ( not just being in the same car!) you can’t parent a four year old from six feet away.
Whatever the perceived right and wrongs of this matter, the claims surrounding them are getting more and more OTT.

Firecracker123 Wed 27-May-20 09:35:37

08:46Grannynannywanny

BJ is to be questioned by senior MPs today. The first time he has appeared before the Commons Liaison Committee since taking office.

35 Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign.

So on that reckoning he's got 330 odd who are on his side.

Elegran Wed 27-May-20 09:35:17

So many people bring Brexit into this. I had almost forgotten that we have left the EU in all but the final negotiated details in the face of this more immediate threat.

The anger he has unleashed about his actions has no connection with Brexit. Can they not see the arrogance of the man, making rules for the little people to follow which he doesn't follow himself?

And his stuopidity and lack of foresight - By acting as though he can ignore what binds everyone else, he has given permission for everyone in the country who has CoVid 19 symptoms to pile into a car with their child and spend four hours closed in with them to spread it to grandma (ignoring family living locally and a local community action group who would have helped ).

OF COURSE the child then developed the virus and as a result had to be hospitalised - what did he expect? And this man is reponsible for advising out Prime Minister on his decisions? Do either of them really have a clue?

Has he never read any history? When the plague struck in 1348, those who could flee the infected cities did so - taking the plague with them and ensuring that it killed 30% of the population. Most of the modern inhabitants of the country took to heart the scientific, medical and governmental advice to STAY HOME and deal with it from there - but not him! Why is he still in place as the power behind 10 Downing Street?

MissAdventure Wed 27-May-20 09:02:40

The royals didn't make the rules.

Huge difference.