Will he resign 2

I reckon he is going to resign.

Johnson has put so much effort into supporting him, he is going to find it extremely difficult to sack him now.

I have seen on several local FB sites people who've in worst positions than he supposedly was, who've appealed for help from the local community and received it. Many of them single parents. If his eyesight was bad, he should never have been driving - he could have killed someone. His trip to Barnard Castle apparently coincided with his wife's birthday - although I'm not sure about the truth of that. He was the one instrumental in the Stay Safe - Stay Home mantra - which he should have adhered to. I'm sure, with his connections, if there had been a real problem, they could have got a carer in with PPE to help out. I was really upset that he offered up no sort of apology at all - particularly when so many people have faced losing loved ones.

Thanks grannyactivist

dominic cummings was Michael Gove's political advisor 2007 to 2014 that's why he was wheeled out to say his piece!

Sorry

Former chief whip that should have been.

There are so many contradictions in Dominic Cummings' story that I hardly know where to begin.

Early in his statement he said; "Last year I wrote about the possible threat of coronaviruses and the urgent need for planning." In fact a data scientist has done a reverse data search and discovered that references about pandemics/coronaviruses were retrospectively added to his posts sometime between April and May this year (after questions were being raised about his trip to Durham).
So, a lie.

In DM's statement he says that on March 27th his wife had a bout of sickness accompanied by a headache, but had no symptoms of covid-19. Because she was alone, without their usual childcare, DC went home for a couple of hours until she felt better and he then returned to work. This is his wife's description of those same events: My version of the virus began with a nasty headache and a grubby feeling of unease, after which I threw up on the bathroom floor. ‘That’s disgusting, Mum,’ said my four-year-old son, handing me a towel with a look of patronising distaste. She then goes on to say: That evening (remember it is March 27th), as I lay on the sofa, a happy thought occurred to me: if this was the virus, then my husband, who works 16-hour days as a rule, would have to come home.

There is a contradiction here as later in the article she says that DC did rush home, but in his version of events this was during the earlier part of the day.

So, on the evening of March 27th DC's wife had NO symptoms of covid-19 and DC himself had NO symptoms of covid-19. He states this explicitly: "I thought that if I did not develop symptoms, (i.e. at that point he had NOT shown any symptoms) then I might be able to return to work to help deal with the crisis."

So, in their own words they confirm that on the evening of March 27th when they set off to drive to his parent's estate 260 miles away neither of them were exhibiting symptoms - although, being generous one could say that they were surprisingly ignorant about the symptoms the government had specified. They nevertheless took the decision to travel on the basis of what might happen if they did both become ill; a dilemma shared by many parents, including my own daughter in regard to caring for her three young children with a husband away on military service.

Astonishingly, to me at least, DC's wife makes no mention in her article of DC asking her to pack for a 260 mile journey with no prior warning and a stay there of unspecified length. I can see no reason why she would not mention this as at the time the article was written they had returned to London and they were aware that other journalists knew of their trip to Durham.

DC says they arrived at the cottage in the grounds of his parent's home around midnight and for a 'day or two' his wife was feeling breathless and sometimes achy.

Now his wife, in her own words describes the next 10 days, so from *March 28th - 7th April*: ^Dom couldn’t get out of bed. Day in, day out for ten days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way.
After a week, we reached peak corona uncertainty. Day six is a turning point, I was told: that’s when you either get better or head for ICU. But was Dom fighting off the bug or was he heading for a ventilator?^

In his own words DC admits he was, during this exact period, walking around outside and he says he also drove to and from the nearest hospital. So, who is lying? Is it him, or is it his wife? Because one of them most certainly is.

This begs the question of why DC's wife wrote the article in the first place. Remember this was written after they had returned to London and after questions had been raised by journalists about their suspected trip to Durham. Mary Wakefield is of course a journalist herself and so is wise to the ways of a developing story.

There is no evidence that either DC or MW had covid-19, but there is evidence, from their own writings, that their trip to Durham was based on, at best, 'catastrophic thinking', i.e. what might happen if they both became ill at once. Unless of course, it was a planned trip to see his family and celebrate his wife's birthday in their holiday home.

There is overwhelming evidence that they undertook a 260 mile trip against advice that DC helped to formulate. There is overwhelming evidence that DC, MW and their son took a day trip to Barnard's Castle, also against advice that DC helped to formulate. There is undisputed evidence that during the period his wife claims he was ill in bed that he was not only taking walks with his family, but that he was also driving.

In her article MW makes no mention of the death of DC's uncle and their inability, because of government guidance, to attend the funeral. I wonder though if it was in fact their distance from London at the time that would have precluded such a visit.

I spend a lot of my time doing research and trying to objectively piece together bits of evidence from a variety of sources. This is what I've tried to do here. You may read what I've written and come to a different conclusion, but on the evidence I've seen and heard I think that Dominic Cummings has lied and should resign, or be sacked.

Apparently on LBC Gove told a presenter that on occasions he has driven to test his eye sight??????

We all know what company his sister is in charge of?

I have seen somewhere this morning that the person named as a director of IDOX is not his sister. I've seen a screenshot of her details and her date of birth is 1963. Cummings' mother was 71 in April, had she had a child in 1963 she would have been 14...

The IDOX woman is called Alicia. Apparently Cummings' sister is called Francesca. Born in the 1970s. Of course it 'could' be a relation, an aunt or a cousin, but who knows?

Thanks maizie

Chief Whip not happy.

Quite significant I think

For those of you who can cope with twitter, this is a link to the explanation of what Cummings did to his blog:

twitter.com/BD_Angry/status/1265043428485840896

There's a site called The Internet Archive that has been running for at least, I think, 3 decades. It has crawler bots that periodically take screenshots of web pages. It's quite useful if you want to find something that is no longer extant on the web now. In this case it seems to have screen shotted all the pages on Cummings' site because it has a record of the edits he made to the blog.

Oh and by the way an ophthalmologist has rubbished Johnson’s claim about the virus affecting his eyes.

Thanks, Whitewave, he really is unscrupulous.

Johnson talks about integrity. It’s interesting to see on gransnet which people are still defending him. Bit of an eye opener.

No, Vegan what company?

I’m surprised people are still defending him. Especially those who sneer at the notion of the elite. Dominic Scummings is so obviously one of those with bells on. We all know what company his sister is in charge of?

Happy to keep the fires burning. DC has managed to alienate the press, the civil service and an army of Tory MPs with his intellectual arrogance and dismissive attitude, never mind the Remainers.

He has become a liability to the governing party; and if Boris, as has been suggested, cannot cope without him, then he is not fit to be Prime Minister.

ug yep I report what I read and there is far more than I post.

Would you rather not know? If so don’t read it. I’m easy one way or the other tbh

I’m surprised this thread is still going! DC is more unpopular than I thought. That said Whitewave you’re a bit of a ‘one-man-band’ keeping the fires lit!
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If you read the definition of a psychopath....!

And of course adding bits about a potential pandemic that is now known by scientists but making it look as if he did it last year, makes him appear at first glance far brainier than he actually is.

Well technically it doesn’t stop fraud, but helps accountants and security forces to identify fraud. I haven’t a clue how it works, but a computer bod has no difficulty with it.

I’m surprised old “massive brain” didn’t realise this existed. Either that or he has totally underestimated the opposition in his game.

Still failing how to work out how to do the link.

Labour list has more details of fiddling Cummings

It’s called a Wayback machine, and can identify all subsequent entries and the dates they were entered.

Clever isn’t it?

Stops fraud as well.

One bit but there is a better one that explains it in detail. Apparently there is a way of knowing when something has been updated. And Cummings updated it after the rose garden gate

Faisal Islam
@faisalislam
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NEW: No 10 source acknowledges blog was indeed updated, but says the original version from last year linked to an article [in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists] which did discuss coronaviruses [in the bits not quoted from originally but subsequently added].