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It now appears that Ian Blackford did the same?!! Perhaps its now best to draw a line before all and sundry come out of the woodwork!

So not only have people lost faith in the government they have now lost faith in the police (who have been doing an admirable job till now). I bet police forces in other places are in despair today now everyone knows the rules are just advisory and they can do what they like.

Sorry for your loss, Endre. Good post.

So Durham police say he broke the rules going to Barnard Castle but not going to fine him or take further action. Oh.

This is what's really happening Well Said *endre123 For those who support BJ and DC You need to open your eyes.

Well said Endre123. Sorry to hear you’ve lost your Mum. That event in itself is difficult enough to deal with without the added traumatic circumstances you and so many others have had to endure.

Now you have the worry of several other family members who are ill at a time you should be grieving.

After the Cummings fiasco it’s no wonder you are so angry?

So Cummings broke the rules say Durham police.

Johnson says matter now closed

endre123

Very well said indeed

Bravo, endre123.?

I don't feel quite so lonely now

I'm disgusted at some of these comments.
My mother aged 98 died in a Care Home. The family couldnt be with her, her funeral was a bizzarre online event which was traumatising as many hundreds would have attended in normal times. The family is all over the country, we can only "see" each other online and some have been and still very ill. There is nothing we can do to help them .

Their GPs can't see them, their hospital appointments are cancelled because the hospitals are not safe. The hospital staff are ill with covid because people wee not keeping to the rules and spreading the virus. A large percentage of the "well" public are carriers. There are hospitals still full to capacity with covif patients.

To hear that Cummings the Prime Ministers' Chief Advisor had broken his own rules to take his family to a place where was little infection (until he arrived) under a weak story was astonishing. It was HIS rule!
I won't go into the silly details he wants us to believe but we know some important "deals" were signed while he was there, away from the scrutiny of Parliament.

He should have resigned straight away.

Then the Prime Ministers defends him, that was a huge slap in the face to those already in great grief, some have lost multiple family members because they had to isolate all together in one house. We have seen videos families took while they isolated with sometimes three children. Children mostly get it mildly but they can spread it so they should not move into another household. The Cummings child and his mother were in a hospital overnight and they did not inform them they might have had covid.

But Cummings took his family to another household where over 70s were residing. His sister was in touch with them, his son was supposed to be looked after by her, there was NO attempt here to avoid infecting others.

The visit to the Castle is even more bizzare, forget the silly story about eyesight, we're not that stupid. They did enough damage there, sitting on a bench, meeting up with someone from GSK to sign a deal to furher spread the illness.
Job done, BOTH needed to return home to London. Yes both, Mary Wakefield is pivotal in all this and she links up with the Russian Report we should have seen last year. Her family have strong links that reach to Putin and a London Oligarch who funded Leave UK and (wait for it) the Trump campaign

Now if you can't see why Johnson can't sack Cummings you are blind. Cunning found the funding to put Jihnson there. Britain was conned under huge funding to get a right wing Government to destroy our democrracy. The same source that put Trump in his place in the USA.

America have had extensive clean outs and these London Oligarchs were named. But they still run the Britsh Government. When Johnson won the GE his celebration party was organised and paid fir by his Oligarch friend. His exotic holiday was paid for by the same.

We no longer have a democracy. These Oligarchs decide what the Government does and we have seen huge attacks on certain media people who are trying to tell us the truth, or let us know what is really happening. That is what happens in a country heading towards a dictatorship. See Hungary and Orban, we are heading fast in that direction.

Johnson loathes the British, he is an actor but he has done nothing to really stop the seed of deaths in this country. We heard him yesterday saying it was ""advice" again. NO other leader does that. Johnson knew when he last said that tens of thousands died.

That is not a Prime Minister of Britain, that is a Putin puppet manupulating a genocide. If he sacks Cummings the whole pack of cards collapse.

There are top criminals in our Government who are lying to us and are selling off our assets to their rich friends. Why Cummings was in Durham. The truth will out one day.

Much amusement on facebook because Cummings middle name is Cedd. Cedd is a Northumbrian saint who travelled back to the North with 30 monks. He had contracted the plague and died. All of the monks died of plague as well. History repeating itself? Still plague spreading!

Given that Cummings allegedly wanted to use herd immunity to combat the virus and his actions have resulted in people ignoring lockdown rules which will result in the virus spreading does any else wonder what his ulterior motives are. Why has he put forward a story that has incriminated him even more? Is it to actually bring down the PM who was used to win the election because of his charm and charisma? So that someone else could then replace him. Even if Cummings goes he will still be pulling the strings because he has Gove under his spell also. Is the whole Cummingsgate saga a way of drawing attention away from the appalling death rate in this country? If so, Starmer is wise to not get drawn into it and he is correct in that the important thing to do at this moment is to fight the pandemic. As for people that seem desperate to find fault with Starmer, maybe some supporters feel that if we’d had a different Labour Party leader for the past few years a lot of the bad things that have happened to this country recently wouldn’t have happened. But I’m digressing. I do think that there’s more to Cummingsgate than meets the eye, though.

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Jo Maugham QC
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I am yet to read a single serious lawyer - aside from
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elegran yes I so agree?

Choose your battles WW - and the timing of them.

I’m not convinced that it would work putting down a motion calling for Cummings removal.

The Tories are nothing if not tribal.

It is a very difficult calculation to make I think.

The sheer hypocrisy of it! Watching the Jeremy Vine show, I have just been listening to Alistair Campbell pontificating about adhering to social distancing whilst criticising DC. Yesterday he was forced to apologise and remove a photograph he had posted on Wednesday morning of himself and a fellow swimmer at the Serpentine, when they were standing shoulder to shoulder. Could it be that advisers (past and present) to prime ministers of all parties believe themselves to be above the rules. A minor breach perhaps, and yes, he apologised, but nevertheless he did it!

Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it. Even better is to allow your opponent to open his mouth to prove his own foolishness before you step in.

elegran and grannywanny absolutely.

Starmer mustn’t give Johnson any platform at all.

No point in allowing Johnson a win of any sort at this stage.

The trick is to continue to make him the obvious loser he is turning out to be and keeping quiet is sometimes the cleverest thing to do.

The percentage who think he (Cummings) should resign or be sacked is going up every time you look at the internet. Starmer won't make a decisive move until/unless it is high enough to prove that he would have the backing of most of the country. No point going off at half-cock.

No point having a vote of no confidence either, until/unless it is certain to be successful. A failure would just confirm he existing government in place and give them more confidence.

“Johnson is at his best when he can rabble rouse his followers against the opposition, - not necessarily making and sense but make a huge noise doing it”

Perfect description Whitewavemark2

He is displaying the same leadership qualities as Trump

Starmer will only do this if he is reasonably certain of either a sin or a substantial vote against even if he doesn’t win, it will show the strength of unease.

He is no doubt doing the calculations and watching what happens between now and then.

“looks as if there might not be a majority in the House of Commons to support Cummings if Keir Starmer puts down a motion next week calling for his removal

It’s becoming Cummings versus the people“

lemon yes absolutely. It is called only picking fights that you know you can win. Slowly slowly catchy monkey

Competence goes a long way though. At least Starmer understands what the arguments are.

Johnson is at his best when he can rabble rouse his followers against the opposition, - not necessarily making and sense but make a huge noise doing it.

Starmer is avoiding that platform. Clever

...and whilst I agree with you that Starmer is more competent in general, that alone doesn’t make a leader or PM.

Whitewave it’s very easy for a LOTO to ‘call’ for things that they themselves don’t have to instigate.?

Perhaps he's gone off on a jolly that's why he's keeping quiet.