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Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 19:13:26

I don’t mean whether you agree with certain political policies, I am talking about competence, knowledge and integrity.

I truthfully can’t think of a single one.

All PMs have a weakness, no doubt but this goes beyond anything I’ve every seen or read.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 30-May-20 15:04:12

I reckon that after another winter of chaos with the virus, and then a further economic crises plus supply shortages post no deal Johnson will be gone by next summer.

Not that him and his ilk will mind they will have got even more wealthy on brexit.

Galaxy Sat 30-May-20 16:11:41

I think he will only go if he wants to go, bit that is possible, I doubt the position is what he thought it would be. Be careful what you wish for indeed.

growstuff Sun 31-May-20 00:36:52

Johnson is a charlatan, who has lied, is incompetent and has delude people that he is intelligent.

For some reason best known to themselves, people fell for it.

growstuff Sun 31-May-20 00:39:28

The people who voted for him obviously don't care for their country, which is a shame, because I care.

varian Sun 31-May-20 20:02:10

The government is trying to force MPs back
to work in Westminster irrespective of health risks. Many Mps and their constituents will be disenfranchised. Another blow against democracy.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/31/mps-furious-about-forced-return-of-physical-voting-to-commons

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 20:20:47

Our NHS, Bin Men, Super Market Workers, Butchers, Bakers, Greengrocers, Posties, Care Workers, Teachers, Critical Builders, Builders Supply’s and Teachers are/have been working throughout lockdown so should our MPs be in Parliament, only fair.

As an employer I have never asked an employee to do something I wouldn’t do, time to lead from the front.

varian Sun 31-May-20 20:36:58

The House of Commons does not have enough seats for all MPs, let alone 2m apart.

Also MPs come from all over the country so could be superspreaders of the virus.

Why should they not continue to work from home? Unlike surgeons, bin men and supermarket workers, their work only involves discussions, meetings, letters, speeches, reports.not physical work. All who can work from home should continue to do so and that includes MPs.

MaizieD Sun 31-May-20 22:02:18

I can't believe you are serious, GG13.

Just because the Blessed Boris 'defied' the virus by shaking hands with all and sundry, against scientific advice it doesn't mean that 600+ MPs have to be ridiculously foolhardy when it's been perfectly workable to conduct parliament with the aid of technology.

He's not 'leading from the front', he's desperately seeking the support of his baying sycophants at PMQs and indifferent to the risks to MPs and their families.

MayBee70 Sun 31-May-20 22:14:45

Now is a very good time to drag parliament into the 21st century. I think it’s been working well with internet links. I also think it’s time we had a new style of parliament with no filibustering, sabre rattling and baying mobs. It’s no longer amusing.

gillybob Sun 31-May-20 22:21:51

As an aside, as an employer I tend to do the things my employees would not do . I wash the cups, floors and clean the loos for goodness sake .

Neither myself or my DH have had any income for 8 weeks now . 2 of my employees are enjoying 80% of their wages for staying home and the other is on full wages .

I don’t recall a prime minister ever having to deal with a global pandemic before ?

MaizieD Sun 31-May-20 23:11:56

Maybe not, gillybob but a number of national leaders are dealing with it rather better than Johnson is.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 01-Jun-20 06:33:12

I would say MOST leaders maizie

Eloethan Mon 01-Jun-20 12:31:55

Couldn't there by some sort of compromise?

It seems unsafe for them all to attend because there is enough space for them to distance properly. However, why don't they set up some sort of rota whereby a certain number from each party attend and some participate online?

I do think it is important to have some sort of presence in the House of Commons. Online communications are not that straight forward, and this government needs to be monitored properly because so far its handling of the crisis has been unsatisfactory.

MaizieD Mon 01-Jun-20 13:33:57

Isn't that more or less what they have been doing, Eloethan?

graykat Mon 01-Jun-20 14:34:45

No, I can't think of a worse PM. I am ashamed of my country and broken-hearted that it has become the laughing stock of the world. An arrogant, elitist, superior toff has conned the country into believing his empty soundbites and Latin drivel. Now we have people dying in their thousands and a catastrophic no-deal Brexit in the offing. The people are divided, the economy is tanking and will get worse, the stability of Europe is under threat and climate change is being ignored. All because this spoilt oaf wanted to be PM. He has no leadership skills, no integrity, no vision, no sense of responsibility. He has ruined this country for my children and grandchildren by appealing to the worst in people.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 01-Jun-20 14:39:47

graykat my sentiments exactly

varian Mon 01-Jun-20 14:50:36

Here here graykat

MayBee70 Mon 01-Jun-20 15:07:53

Spot on....

Eloethan Tue 02-Jun-20 00:44:02

There seem to be very few MPs actually in the House of Commons. I would have thought it would still be relatively safe with a few more present.

May7 Tue 02-Jun-20 01:27:17

I feel the same way greycat and shame doesnt even cover it I'm afraid
I'm actually truly ashamed to be English.

Grany Tue 02-Jun-20 05:49:48

Agree with you graykat

Gajahgran Tue 02-Jun-20 07:04:56

I don't know what you are talking about Graycat. Nobody could have predicted this pandemic. You seem to blame Boris for it. Do you not realise it came from China. Why do you try to link it with Brexit.

I am proud to be British. We are not the laughing stock of the World what on earth do you mean.

Lucca Tue 02-Jun-20 07:14:34

Excellent post Graycat. I’m afraid we are a laughing stock, I have heard this from my own contacts abroad and from others with friends in other countries. My son lives abroad and tells me he is heartbroken at what is happening to the UK. Those who think it’s all fine are in denial.

Lucca Tue 02-Jun-20 07:16:20

Oh I forgot to add again I am not a “loony leftie”....just a disillusioned British citizen.

Calendargirl Tue 02-Jun-20 07:23:29

Don’t want to be rude Lucca, but if your son lives abroad, why is he heartbroken about what is happening in the UK?

Does it affect him?