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Just how pathetic is Boris going to be allowed to be?

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GGumteenth Thu 18-Jun-20 09:45:13

I could not believe that he was attempting to blame Kier Starmer and the unions for the schools not opening yesterday. Does he not take responsibility for anything?

The schools are doing all they can. They are moving heaven and earth to get their schools open even though there is a lack of guidance and what there is tends to lack clarity. If I was a suspicious person I would think he is doing that deliberately so he can blame others.

Listening to the Head Teacher of an independent school was saying how he was able to open his school for all his pupils because he class sizes were already 15. He defended the state schools for the lack of provision of additional buildings and teachers. Neither the teachers, nor the unions, nor Keir Starmer can magic up the money for those.

This government made the error right at the beginning of treating CV like flu. Remember the Boris boasting he had shaken everyone's hand? That just proved him a fool didn't it. Remember the late lock-down? Starmer has tried to work with the government but if the gloves are off - taken off by the arrogant Johnson and his adviser - then let's have a proper, judge run look at what has happened so far with the lot that are "governing" the country - or so they tell us.

MayBee70 Tue 23-Jun-20 10:48:23

I’ve got a new iPad that I’m struggling with and haven’t worked out how to do links etc. So dependent on the internet at the moment that I’m terrified of doing something that locks me out as I can’t get anyone to sort it out.

MaizieD Tue 23-Jun-20 12:14:27

Is this helpful. Lucca

It includes a copy of Whately's letter.

nursingnotes.co.uk/news/student-nurses-not-deemed-providing-servicemp/

MayBee70 Tue 23-Jun-20 12:26:50

Thanks Maizie !

Lucca Tue 23-Jun-20 19:22:23

Thank you . I’m on it !

Whitewavemark2 Wed 24-Jun-20 16:40:30

Continuing the theme of the lying PM.
“If you heard Keir Starmer challenge Boris Johnson at #PMQs about incorrect statistics on child poverty he cited last week (and refused to withdraw this week), the government's own Children's Commissioner office has ruled the PM got it wrong.“

Another lie.

Johnson declares there’s no country in the world operating a contact-tracing app. Starmer points out Germany’s is fully operational with several million users. Johnson ignores him and repeats the lie that the app doesn’t exist anywhere in the world. Staggering gaslighting.

Full Fact
@FullFact

At #PMQs Boris Johnson claimed 97% of schools who submitted data had children coming back in early June.

This is not true. On the day he said this, 97% of schools who submitted data were open, but only about two thirds of them had children coming back.

Oh! And did anyone note that this government wants to remove the right to jury trial

“The government wants to abolish jury trials in order to address a court backlog caused by its own cuts, under the pretence that it was caused by Covid.“

varian Wed 24-Jun-20 16:50:30

Pointing out that Boris Johnson tell lies is unlikely to make any difference to those who voted for him. Everyone knew he was a habitual liar, a serial adulterer and as Eddie Mair once said to his face on tv "a nasty piece of works". They must have known all that and yet they still voted for him.

MayBee70 Wed 24-Jun-20 19:04:09

Unbelievable isn’t it. He said at the daily briefing the other day that no country had got a working app but no one picked up on it. There’s a long list of countries that are using apps of various kinds. Johnson just doesn’t know how to not lie, does he ?

MaizieD Wed 24-Jun-20 19:12:21

He said at the daily briefing the other day that no country had got a working app but no one picked up on it

Starmer picked him up on it today at PMQ when he repeated the same lie. He pointed out that Germany's app had been downloaded over 12 million times. (I think that means it's working...)

On twitter yesterday people were listing loads of countries which had working tracing apps. Pity Starmer couldn't reel them all off..

Whitewavemark2 Wed 24-Jun-20 19:33:29

Corruption

‘Jenrick is under pressure to resign after newly released documents indicated that he had “insisted” a planning decision for a £1bn development should be rushed through so a Tory donor’s company could reduce costs by up to £50m’

Blinko Wed 24-Jun-20 20:08:51

How much longer do we have to put up with this shambles? Oh, wait, four years, isn't it?

MayBee70 Wed 24-Jun-20 22:34:35

Maizie: yes...we were watching PMQT and cheering and clapping.

growstuff Wed 24-Jun-20 23:56:07

I expect this extract from one of Johnson's school reports from Eton has been posted before:

“Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude to his classical studies . . . Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility (and surprised at the same time that he was not appointed Captain of the School for next half): I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else.”

He really doesn't appear to have changed much.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 06:36:07

The Tory party trying to stop you knowing about corruption

“The BBC has seen photos of Mr Jenrick + Mr Desmond sitting at the same table at the fundraising dinner. And photos of Boris Johnson with his arm around Mr Desmond. The Conservative Party refused permission for us to publish them.“

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 06:38:53

Johnson is toast and he knows it.

t.co/yVRnHEhHai?amp=1

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 07:20:51

Another Tory under pressure to resign. Another reason for Johnson to ignore opinion, but it is mounting up bit by bit. One day the dam will burst.

Jenrick is not going away
Tate and Lyle is not going away
Cummings scandal is not going away
Covid mismanagement is not going away
Russian Report is not going away
Arcuri is not going away
Vote Leave/BeLeave is not going away

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 07:26:21

This is the story Johnson will try to ignore until it goes away. It saved his friend £40million.

t.co/Z4jFnoI130?amp=1

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 07:28:34

Another irritation that won’t go away

t.co/FM15OUkOzW?amp=1

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 10:59:33

Jo Maugham QC
@JolyonMaugham

When Cummings didn't go we all learned we didn't need to abide by the law. If Jenrick doesn't go we will learn too that political corruption doesn't matter. This is the country Johnson is making for us. A cesspool.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 25-Jun-20 12:18:21

Asked how ordinary members of the public can influence planning decisions in the same way Richard Desmond was able to, Business Minister Nadhim Zahawi says they should go to Conservative party fundraisers and talk to Tory MPs.

varian Thu 25-Jun-20 15:16:08

'We don't want to give Marxists doe': texts between Desmond and Jenrick

Released papers show messages exchanged between the housing secretary and a Tory donor

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/24/we-dont-want-to-give-marxists-doe-texts-between-desmond-and-jenrick

Richard Desmond is a billionaire pornographer and former owner of the Daily Express who used his influence as a Tory party donor, not just to persuade Jenrick to approve his planning application but to do it the day before a Community Levy was introduced which would have given Tower Hamlets, one of the most deprived places in the country about, £45 million. (described by him as "giving Marxists doe " - this despicable ignoramous cannot even spell.

varian Thu 25-Jun-20 15:24:22

In the run up to the 2015 election this sleazey character is said to have donated at least £1.3 million to UKIP, which no doubt helped to persuade David Cameron to call the fraudulent referendum of 2016.

Since helping to engineer brexit, he enthusiastically supports the Tories, but clearly not without expecting something in return.

Grany Thu 25-Jun-20 16:26:28

Forget Churchill writes Andy Stowe. The wartime leader Boris Johnson most resembles is General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett, the blustering incompetent First World War commander in the TV series Blackadder which was popular when Johnson was a teenager.

Long before Johnson was talking about “wiffle waffle” and “spaffing” the cretinously posh, incompetent Melchett was encouraging the troops to go to deaths with uplifting gibberish like “tally-ho, yippety dip and zing zang spillip”. Translate his observation ‘if nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through’ into dog Latin and it could be Johnson’s family motto.

socialistresistance.org/walk-at-a-steady-pace-towards-machine-guns-urges-johnson-as-65000-die/20267?fbclid=IwAR2p14zNx2umMmP9n3UC7jnQfJEEcP-FuQYY85SWoPsB_v3aY0nrDF-ioPg

varian Thu 25-Jun-20 18:13:58

I actually spoke to a Boris fan the other day who thought that although the populist leaders Trump and Bolsinaro had been disastrous for their countries, which have the worst and second worst record in combating the pandemic, good old Boris, who has presided over the third worst performance in the world, was doing his best and was just "unlucky"!!!!!!!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jun-20 07:26:07

Jo Maugham QC
@JolyonMaughan
We have to try – at the very least we must try – to hold the line when it comes to corruption in the Cabinet. So we have asked Jason Coppel QC to advise us whether Robert Jenrick has committed the crime of misconduct in public office.