Institutional racism in the police?

Did the police say in a statement the windows were illegally
tinted or did the couple in the car say - the police said they were illegally tinted ?

The police said that the windows were illegally tinted - that’s what we don’t know for sure. Sorry I wasn’t clear - the people concerned said the windows were factory fitted tinted.

suziewoozie

GG we don’t know about the tinted windows for sure do we? If it’s true, I’m surprised they haven’t been charged with that offence. But as I’ve said before, I’m awaiting the findings from the next stage?

It occurred to me when I was following Mr.GG13's car, it is big and has dark tinted windows and I couldn't tell if it was him or our DD driving.

GG we don’t know about the tinted windows for sure do we? If it’s true, I’m surprised they haven’t been charged with that offence. But as I’ve said before, I’m awaiting the findings from the next stage?

annie have you read my link? EV unconscious bias at best, institutional racism at worst.

Why do you think this is so, Suziewoozie ?

Ellan again it comes to the law, sack employees because there is ‘unrest’, ? A tribunal ?

Yes Galaxy the name , how can it be proved an employer
didn’t choose an applicant because of their name.

If as it has been alleged the athletes car had black tinted windows, how can the police be guilty of racial profiling because from the rear it would have been impossible to know the colour/race of the driver/passengers, before the car was stopped and the Officers were close?

www.personneltoday.com/hr/study-finds-alarming-discrimination-against-minority-ethnic-candidates/

This is interesting - a very well designed piece of research about what actually happens

But Anniebach did get a straight answer from susiewoozy

But that's what you would do Ellan. The studies show that employees are discriminated against if they have a 'non English' sounding name. Sorry that's not phrased very well.

But

Annie you'd never get a straight answer as the racist card is then played to cover over answering a simple question.

If I was employing someone it wouldn't matter a jot what colour they were as long as their CV was sufficient enough to impress as to the nature of the work. Should it be someone of colour etc. and there were signs of unrest within the employ then I'd immediately sack those who were causing an undercurrent----simple as that.

Thank you suzie.

annie over the years I’ve been involved in interviewing and appointing people to a variety of posts and have never had two people of any colour at all both equally suited to the job. It’s never worked like that. However, if I were in that position, I’d like to think I’d consider the diversity of the workplace and appoint the person I thought would contribute to that. I did once know someone who was one of the final two fora job with nothing between them ( no issues of colour or sex) - he had just been made redundant and the other candidate was in work so they gave him the job on the grounds of need. I thought that was fine - they couldn’t appoint both and they explained their decision.

Couldn’t reply without sarcasm could you trisher

The answer is not ‘fairly obvious’, not every employer runs a
company

Ultimately Trisher, you are absolutely committed to seeing racism everywhere. Yes there are some irrelevant posts on here but these threads never seem to go anywhere, just meaningless rhetoric.

Racism undoubtedly exists and black people have every right to demand whites treat them as the equals they are. They also have the right to expect black people to bring about changes within their own community. Stop young men glorifying gun violence and drug dealing in their songs. Maybe if certain ‘role models’ didn’t promote the bling lifestyle and how to achieve it via illegal methods more young black men would have different aspirations.

Are some people racist -well yes just read this thread to be certain. Will some employers appoint on the basis of skin colour -undoubtedly? Are most employers white- well yes. So the answer to the question is fairly obvious unless the company concerned has a policy of trying to ensure that ethnic minorities are properly represented in their employees. What has this to do with institutional racism in the police?- well very little. But when you are losing an argument why not introduce irrelevancies?

Annie
Or sexist if the job goes to the man?

I’m beginning to think we’re arguing for the sake of arguing here. I think we all know that racism exists, that some police are racist, that some police experience racism in the police. We all agree that racism needs to be stamped out wherever it is. We should all agree that we’re on the way, but despite legislation, changing attitudes takes longer.
Last year I went on holiday in the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee, and had a wonderful time, such interesting areas. But I saw such huge differences in the way of life of white people/black people at every level there, and I was truly shocked at what I saw and learnt.
Attitudes are changing here in the UK. We have laws in place. It isn’t perfect, but social change takes time. We should not be complacent. I don’t think overall that we are.

It'd be interesting to find out the truth of the matter Annie. If everyone's as truthful as they say they are ?

How far can laws go ? A while woman and a black woman applied for the same job, both are equally qualified, the employer chooses to give the job to a white woman, can the
employer be accused of being a racist ?

No sarcasm please

Cancer is more than a twinge !
Always the pedant, eh ? I'm more the optimist !

On the other hand the twinge could be cancer and by ignoring it you leave it to grow, some twinges need dealing with, and this is one of them.

If this colour business wasn't brought to everyone's attention all the time there'd have been no problems whatsoever.

If you experienced a twinge somewhere in your body, the more you dwell on it the worse it gets so if the brain functions as it should, you just get on with what you're doing and hey-presto the twinge is history.