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Up to 3 million Hong Kong residents are to be offered to settle in the UK (EDITED BY HQ)

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Jul-20 13:56:10

That’s today’s headline, or would be if I was a leave campaigner and it was May 2016.

There would be huge posters up showing queues of people into the far distance, with Johnson saying the hoards are coming.

Brexiters complained about how our schools and hospitals would be full of these incomers.

I await the same arguments from these people.

Smileless2012 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:01:30

Well said Peardrop I see the myth that those who voted for Brexit only did so because of immigration is alive and kicking.

Me too merlotgran neither China or Hong Kong are places I'd want to live in.

PamelaJ1 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:02:23

Merlotgran I agree.
There will be no opportunity for the Hong Kongers to go on a forum like this. They will have to shut up and put up.
Now I know that Gransnet isn’t a way of life but it is one example of our freedom.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 01-Jul-20 18:27:59

I agree with your post Pamela, they will be educated and possibly wealthy and that is what this country needs. Also I am happy that Ladymuck has left the Boris Fan Club grin and could soon join the leftie club.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jul-20 18:28:55

My Chinese friends are very opinionated. Their opinions and perspective of the UK are very different to yours. Not flattering, in the same way ours aren't about them.

Have you seen the Hong Kong protests? They aren't a new thing.

Jane10 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:37:14

The Hong Kong people who have moved to Canada and elsewhere have turned out to be positive assets for their new countries. Many seem to be skilled, well trained and entrepreneurial.

Urmstongran Wed 01-Jul-20 18:41:08

Well said indeed janeainsworth and Peardrop.
Boris did the right thing here. That said most probably won’t come. Mind you, if the CCP ramp things up - who knows?

maddyone Wed 01-Jul-20 18:44:55

I’m pleased the offer has been made. Some will come I expect, but others will choose not to. Those who come will want to work and contribute.

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 18:55:15

So, we're perfectly happy to welcome and give a free pass to 'educated' people from Hong Kong (to take the jobs of our educated people?) but not from the EU.

My gast is totally flabbered by this thread

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:01:49

My Hong Kong friends, who are democrats, are having to adjust to living under an undemocratic regime.

Many of us, like the 50 million UK citizens who never voted for brexit, are having to adjust to having lost our EU citizenship.

That is the way politics works in a less than perfect world.

janeainsworth Wed 01-Jul-20 19:03:01

Maizie I voted remain, and would vote the same way again if I had the chance.
I don’t know why you think that just because someone welcomes Chinese people, that makes them also support Brexit confused

PamelaJ1 Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:14

Varian, the difference is that you can voice your opinion.
More of the population disagreed with you rather than agreed.
You had a vote. The people in HK didn’t.

Boris hasn’t just sent someone out to arrest you.

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:53

Those of us who voted remain tended to be more tolerant, outgoing, inclusive, internationalist and welcoming to immigrants.

vegansrock Wed 01-Jul-20 20:01:05

So if they are poor and not an asset they won’t be welcome?

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 20:19:15

I don’t know why you think that just because someone welcomes Chinese people, that makes them also support Brexit

I know who the Brexit supporters are, janeainsworth and some are posting on this thread saying that the Hong Kongers would be welcome. They're the ones who are astounding me that, and the denial of being anti immigration

I'm perfectly happy for them to come to the UK from HK to escape repression, but then, I was perfectly happy with EU FOM and with accepting refugees.

silverlining48 Wed 01-Jul-20 20:22:20

It is never an easy decision and a sacrifice to leave one’s country, to leave friends, family and home behind. No one does it easily, unless there is little choice. So yes, personally I would welcome the poor as well because they can and do contribute a great deal as well.
I know a number of Syrian refugees and they, like us, just seek a peaceful, safe life for themselves and their families, with the freedoms we enjoy, but they know they will always remain foreigners in another land, and would still rather not have had to leave their homeland.

Iam64 Wed 01-Jul-20 20:31:40

Gagajo - I haven't seen any negative comments here about people from Hong Kong. Your particular group of friends may be 'opinionated' with negative views of British people but that doesnt make the the majority.
Like everyone else, I'm received that the government has made it clear that people who wish to move to the Uk from HK are welcome to do so.

watermeadow Wed 01-Jul-20 20:33:28

Poor souls. Will they be joining our 3 million unemployed?

Peardrop50 Wed 01-Jul-20 20:55:35

PamelaJ1 - well said.

Varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:53
Those of us who voted remain tended to be more tolerant, outgoing, inclusive, internationalist and welcoming to immigrants.

Your implication is that I am less tolerant, less outgoing, not inclusive, not internationalist and not welcoming to immigrants based purely on the fact that I voted to leave the EU. This could not be further from the truth and I resent the implication.

MaizieD I know who the Brexit supporters are, janeainsworth and some are posting on this thread saying that the Hong Kongers would be welcome. They're the ones who are astounding me that, and the denial of being anti immigration.

Again unfounded accusations based on voting in a different way to you.
and the fact that your gast is flabbered could be because you haven't read the thread properly, I personally stated that 'people who contribute to our society or the vulnerable escaping theirs are welcome' and most reasonable posters agreed. So unflabber your gast dear and calm down.

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 21:03:05

Have you been posting on Gnet for very long, Peardrop?

Urmstongran Wed 01-Jul-20 21:05:31

Is that a clue?
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Peardrop50 Wed 01-Jul-20 21:13:08

Have you been posting on Gnet for very long, Peardrop?

A few years off and on, more since lockdown because I am not out and about.
I do enjoy the political threads but am getting a bit bored with the same few Guardianistas hijacking most threads and quashing reasonable debate with bullying behaviour.

Urmstongran Wed 01-Jul-20 21:16:01

Hear, hear Peardrop! Well said.
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MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 21:23:16

What reasonable debate would that be? Just as a matter of interest?

Is that the one where everyone throws out a few mantras and everyone else agrees with them. Then shout 'bully' at anyone who disagrees?

lemongrove Wed 01-Jul-20 21:29:22

There’s a lot of constant anger by some posters.....it must be exhausting to keep it up for years.

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 21:29:33

The thing is, Ug, I've been posting on here, on the News & Politics forum pretty continually for the past 4 years and this is the very first thread in all that time about a possible influx of immigrants where the Leavers have actually approved of them coming.

"I'm not racist, but the UK is too full already" is a very common comment usually.

I find this very, very strange.