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Up to 3 million Hong Kong residents are to be offered to settle in the UK (EDITED BY HQ)

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Jul-20 13:56:10

That’s today’s headline, or would be if I was a leave campaigner and it was May 2016.

There would be huge posters up showing queues of people into the far distance, with Johnson saying the hoards are coming.

Brexiters complained about how our schools and hospitals would be full of these incomers.

I await the same arguments from these people.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Jul-20 06:46:23

Oh and GNHQ if you change the heading back to its original, I would be grateful, and we will say no more about it.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Jul-20 07:12:30

something I could NOT countenance!!

Davidhs Fri 03-Jul-20 10:00:32

“New Zealand is a popular destination”

NZ has just introduced regulations to prevent foreigners from buying houses.
Should not affect those who become NZ citizens, some might if they have a good reason to leave HK permanently, the new law should not affect the ability to make money in HK.
New Zealand might be a nice place to retire or take a holiday, the opportunities to make a living are very limited, that’s why so many Kiwis work overseas.

Callistemon Fri 03-Jul-20 10:11:00

About a fifth of people who live in New Zealand were born overseas, Davidhs.
That is quite a high proportion.
People I know who moved there have gone to work in various careers and some have set up their own businesses since.

growstuff Fri 03-Jul-20 10:51:26

Maybe countries wishing to establish a Hong Kong in other lands should ask Israel for advice. The more I think about it, the more daft it seems.

Callistemon Fri 03-Jul-20 11:12:19

It does seem strange.
Surely integration is the way forward?

Davidhs Fri 03-Jul-20 12:04:40

“About a fifth of people who live in New Zealand were born overseas,“

They are indeed, a lot of Pacific Islanders, plenty of Brits, the fact remains if you are well qualified and want to earn good money you go overseas. My sister lives in Brisbane and complains about immigrants - Kiwis who can work in OZ without a visa. LOL

PamelaJ1 Fri 03-Jul-20 13:18:01

I was listening to an interview with one of the members of the think tank that came up with this idea.
I personally can’t see the point. I believe that the Hongkongers will integrate with our population quite easily.
However, there may be, but I don’t know, that there could be an economic advantage to our Government to have one country two systems!
We could reclaim land in the Thames estuary and put paid to another airport. Just joking?

Davidhs my DD lives in Sydney , she works in a government department and says they will be welcome there.

GillT57 Fri 03-Jul-20 17:16:06

As I understand it, a lot of HK Chinese bought properties in London in case of this very predictable eventuality. I think the government are doing the morally right thing here, this is not just about people protesting about the loss of their rights and freedoms it is about China's blatant and very provocative 'ripping up' of the handover agreement. Those backbenchers who are concerned about Huaweii are absolutely correct, and as for the very idea of the Chinese being involved in nuclear power stations.................

Peardrop50 Fri 03-Jul-20 17:34:13

Personally I choose to ignore all racist comments as worthy of such contempt. I will however acknowledge concerns regarding the creaking strain on our infrastructure by uncontrolled immigration. While people immediately jump on the latter comment as being racist discussion is quashed. We can surely have the discussion to try to deal with the issues without predictable reaction on both sides.
It is not racist to know that we must grow our economy and our infrastructure to enable us to welcome all.

Callistemon Fri 03-Jul-20 17:39:24

Our infrastructure is old, creaking and poorly maintained because we don't pay enough in tax.
I would think that HK Chinese may well be hardworking and enterprising, therefore pay a lot in tax.

MaizieD Fri 03-Jul-20 17:50:07

we must grow our economy and our infrastructure to enable us to welcome all.

As our economy is going to be in dire straits for quite some time we're clearly not going to be able to welcome anyone grin

But, seriously. The creaking state of our infrastructure is a political choice, not a necessity. We have had tory governments for the last 10 years which have slashed government spending for entirely ideological reasons.

Infrastructure doesn't just appear out of thin air, it has to be funded, by government. There's been absolutely no reason why it couldn't have been funded. Taxation doesn't fund spending. The government is able to spend as much as it needs/wants. It just hasn't wanted to spend anything.

PamelaJ1 Fri 03-Jul-20 17:50:15

Gill, there will be a lot of people who have made emergency plans.
Amazing though it may seem, they are not all rich.

MaizieD Fri 03-Jul-20 17:52:35

Hoestly, Callistomen, that is not the reason. (see my post above)

It's purely ideological. Tories hate spending on public services and infrastructure. They want to 'shrink the state'.

MaizieD Fri 03-Jul-20 17:53:31

honestly (memo to self, always preview)

welbeck Fri 03-Jul-20 19:20:29

mr Ko was not looking to establish a charter city in Uk as they want to be in EU if in europe.
his first choice is ireland, which also wants to grow their population, has a highly educated workforce, would welcome more opportunities, jobs. irish govt is interested.
those who have rights to come to uk could presumably go to ireland, as it is common travel area with uk.

varian Fri 03-Jul-20 19:22:54

The fraudulent referendum of 2016 relegated the UK to the third or fourth division of countries which could attract investmen.