Epstein/Maxwell/Prin ce Andrew

Thanks WWMk2, I will look out for it. Especially interesting with the Maxwell arrest.

No!! Don’t pull it. There is some good stuff on here and we’d have to start again as this saga is likely to run and run if the FBI take it to court.

Just zap the personal stuff, that’s all you need to do.

GillT57

To save me reading the thread again, WW, what was the title of the Netflix programme?

Filthy Rich - Epstein. Actually I wouldn’t mind watching it again as I’m sure I missed stuff, but highly recommended.

To save me reading the thread again, WW, what was the title of the Netflix programme?

She is the beans??

What wouldn’t surprise me is that even if she does list everyone involved, it will be suppressed, just as it was before. I think there are an enormous amount of reputations and other stuff that they won’t want to come out. Don’t forget Epstein was not just involved with trafficking and sex he was also involved in fraudulent deals which included other big names.

Maybe GM was being hidden, rather than hiding? There are a few powerful people who must be feeling rather uncomfortable right now. One thing is for sure, if this gets to trial, we are in for a very uncomfortable watch as the victim blaming begins.

The best way to protect herself is surely to spill the beans and quickly? I’m assuming of course she has beans to spill.

25Avalon

Calling somebody a rude name because you don’t agree with what they say happens too often on here and puts people off posting. Can we now get back to the original op and discuss it in a sensible and reasonable manner please?

GM knew the police were after her and yet she deliberately disappeared instead of stepping forward to help. Is this because she doesn’t want to tell but surely knew they would find her sooner or later or was she scared someone else was after her to silence her as has been suggested Epstein was?

Bit of both I expect, you do wonder who these people are though.

Given the way the USA government acted by preventing evidence coming out during Epstein’s first arrest, they must be somewhere on the list and very powerful.

It’s like a film.

Calling somebody a rude name because you don’t agree with what they say happens too often on here and puts people off posting. Can we now get back to the original op and discuss it in a sensible and reasonable manner please?

GM knew the police were after her and yet she deliberately disappeared instead of stepping forward to help. Is this because she doesn’t want to tell but surely knew they would find her sooner or later or was she scared someone else was after her to silence her as has been suggested Epstein was?

Your original post and others by myself highlighting it have been deleted. Maybe in future stick to what’s been posted and not what you’ve dreamt up.

Apologies to the OP, MawB.
The thread has become more about one poster than the subject.

Just ask GN to delete whichever post it was. Please.

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Congratulations on totally derailing a thread. Could you either report it or ignore it, and could the applauding audience stay out of it? It's not a performance and it doesn't need cheerleaders bouncing about on the sidelines.

Good for you, Tickingbird, for pursuing this.

Too many unsubstantiated and inaccurate accusations on Gransnet are allowed to go unchallenged, and the intention is to intimidate; some posters admit they won't post on the political threads because of the aggressive replies they receive.

Callico - are the italics supposed to have meaning?? What was it you said about defending the indefensible??

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Ticking if you feel so strongly why not report it and have done.

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Lucca

Callistemon. Totally agree re the loving your son in spite of possible crimes, the difference is being queen and showing PUBLIC support which was possibly ill judged
I don’t think suzie was criticising the horse riding per se.

Yes, it was ill-judged.
But I should imagine he threw himself on her mercy and claimed it was all a pack of lies and the press were out to get him. She seems to have a blind spot where he is concerned.

I'd feel sorry for any mother of whatever age, public figure or not, who found herself in such a dilemma over a beloved child.

I am neither angry nor hysterical.

Ask for my post to be deleted if it offends you tb

Callistemon. Totally agree re the loving your son in spite of possible crimes, the difference is being queen and showing PUBLIC support which was possibly ill judged
I don’t think suzie was criticising the horse riding per se.

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I do think though Callistemon that you can't remove from the Queen /PA relationship the fact that she thinks she is 'special'. She will not retire because she believes in this 'specialness'. It therefore follows that her children are 'special'. So things that the rest of us may regard as unacceptable become something that is just part of that. I don't think she needs to believe he is innocent only that the law isn't applicable, he is above it, and the girls don't really matter.

trisher I do wonder where his security people were.

However, having met people who knew him years ago and who served with him, I have heard reports about what a nasty, pompous, arrogant man he is.