Eat Out to Help Out.

And that’s it in a nutshell GrannyGravy13

That is the point a few of us have been trying to make.

Why Grandad’s post along the same lines has caused so much anger from the usual suspects is beyond me.

Look, the Chancellor has admitted that, sadly, he can’t promise to save every business, but he and the government are doing their utmost to help as many as possible.

This is not the whole story though is it?

We have to do our bit by supporting shops restaurants restaurants etc or life as we know it will never be the same again.

So an opinion can never be judgemental? Really? A judgement was clear in your post - those who don’t want to eat out don’t care about people being made redundant. You are so Humpty Dumpty grandad ( and that’s a sound judgment based on evidence and not an opinion)

I’m not even going to waste my time ‘debating’ with someone who thinks that ‘ there are those on here who obviously do not wish to carry out such action, and in that demonstrate they care little for anyone else but themselves‘ isn’t rude and judgement.

You will not sway people to your ‘opinion’ like this.

I feel the money this gimmick will cost would be better spent on developing a proper test and track system, so all people will venture out because there is genuinely minimal risk.

GrannyGravy13

Basically if the general public do not support businesses, whether they be retail or hospitality they will disappear from our High Streets.

It is a worrying time for anyone with a Private Pension, ISA's or Investments that they rely on to top up their State Pension as the returns on most are vanishing before their eyes.

I get the theory, but I still maintain it's an inefficient way to do it. It's the kind of thing a GCSE Economics pupil would dream up. It's also unfair because many people can't afford to eat out. They're literally struggling to buy food to put on their own tables, but they will have to pay for these PR stunts with their taxes.

GG13 I would hope that ant government with even the poorest business acumen would realise investing in the green economy is the way to get industry moving and help the environment.

So much needs to be done from a comprehensive network of electrical charge points nationwide to making houses more energy efficient. It’s a vast area and now is the time to move this agenda to the top.

Furret my post at 07:50 today did not judge anyone. It stated that "there are those on here who obviously do not wish to carry out such action, and in that demonstrate they care little for anyone else but themselves"

The above, in my opinion, is stating fact by way of what some forum members in this thread have given as reasons for not wishing to "go out and spend so as to preserve jobs".

It would seem there are also in this thread forum members who look for nothing else but to be offended rather than to actually debate the matter in question.

In that, it would be better to question and debate what a forum member has stated rather than resorting to personal attack. In that action, the personal attack poster demonstrates they have lost the argument.

I'm all in favour of supporting the economy but in my own way. Going out for a meal or drink would help, of course, short term (not that I feel inclined to yet).

However, I'm not convinced it's safe enough. Any 'second wave' could be really disastrous, causing further economic damage, winter lockdowns, maybe an overwhelmed NHS.

We're just not out of the woods yet. Worldwide, the pandemic is really taking off now.

This is the main issue - confidence

Anneliese Dodds
@AnnelieseDodds

Families aren’t staying at home because they're waiting for a tenner off their meal.

They're staying at home because they're still worried about coronavirus.

We don’t just need incentives. We need confidence.

Nobody should be made to feel it's their duty to support pubs, restaurants and high street eateries.

The discount will benefit families who will hopefully take advantage of the chance to eat out more frequently during the holidays. Older people may be more cautious and seek out quieter places.

I won't feel guilty if we fail to take part in Eat Out to Help Out but if we find somewhere suitable where we feel safe, we definitely will.

Basically if the general public do not support businesses, whether they be retail or hospitality they will disappear from our High Streets.

It is a worrying time for anyone with a Private Pension, ISA's or Investments that they rely on to top up their State Pension as the returns on most are vanishing before their eyes.

Apologies, should be furret in my above post.

Surely this is just the kind of post that deliberately seeks to judge people, put them down and hold them responsible for things beyond their control..

There was a whole thread started by GNHQ about this kind of sniping.

Turret, How dare I what??????

Grandad1943

With the number of redundancies announced over the last few days, I would have thought that people would have wished to do all they can to try and prevent further such announcements.

However, there are those on here who obviously do not wish to carry out such action, and in that demonstrate they care little for anyone else but themselves.

However, those on a private pension or investment income should consider the fact that many of the larger companies and organizations now coming under severe financial stress are the companies where their pension and other investments have been placed.

No such organisations, no such pensions or investment income. That they should consider.

How dare you.

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"With the number of redundancies announced over the last few days, I would have thought that people would have wished to do all they can to try and prevent further such announcements."

Quite true, Grandad. I wont be biting off the hand that feeds me (!!), and by that I could include government's. Eating out is truly a means of helping out when dough is scarce.

With the number of redundancies announced over the last few days, I would have thought that people would have wished to do all they can to try and prevent further such announcements.

However, there are those on here who obviously do not wish to carry out such action, and in that demonstrate they care little for anyone else but themselves.

However, those on a private pension or investment income should consider the fact that many of the larger companies and organizations now coming under severe financial stress are the companies where their pension and other investments have been placed.

No such organisations, no such pensions or investment income. That they should consider.

Thank goodness some people try to see a chink of light at times and appreciate any attempts to help.

PS * vegansrock* I like your analogy - flash in the pan!! This topic really is on the boil now!

To clarify ... not you, vegansrock, the term insulting was used further up. Sorry.

I was only commenting on a poster above who was complaining about people being negative- as if such a comment wasn’t negative in itself, it wasn’t an insult, it was pointing out the inconsistency in the comment.
Anyway, I won’t eat out anymore than I would have, which isn’t much. Although some obviously will, let’s hope it’s not just a flash in the pan. There is a difference in a quick pizza with the kids where half price will be an attraction, and a fine dining evening out at a good restaurant. I doubt if £10 off will make much difference to those who are seeking the latter.

Ellianne

And once again the insults fly. Some people don't need to eat out to help out, they need to eat their words!

Anyway back to the discussion, what if I go to the pub and have a bottle of wine with my meal, could an unscrupulous landlord to ring it through as food?

All pubs give an itemised bill, in my experience.

And once again the insults fly. Some people don't need to eat out to help out, they need to eat their words!

Anyway back to the discussion, what if I go to the pub and have a bottle of wine with my meal, could an unscrupulous landlord to ring it through as food?

Those people complaining about people complaining are probably the same people who complain about not being “allowed” to be offensive. i.e.“ say what they think”