CAREN Act To Stop Racially Motivated Police Calls Proposed By California Lawmaker

Can I ask what is the defining hairstyle please, I have an appointment at the hairdressers on Tuesday and would like to avoid being labelled yet again (I am blonde and currently live in Essex not sure I can take anymore judgemental names)

Callistimon this is one of those situations where I am unsure if I am making myself clear enough or being deliberately misunderstood in order to fuel some sort of argument.

I do not believe using the name Karen to describe certain behaviour is acceptable

I also do not believe the behaviour of people who believe they are jutified to racially profile or otherwise profile people they see as less than themselves is acceptable either.

Those viewpoints do not negate each other.

Here you go, GrannyGravy13!

No idea Grannygravy But the odds are that no matter which style you choose, you'll be labelled as something or other simply because of your gender, age and ethnicity.

Oopsminty

Here you go, GrannyGravy13!

Thank you, that style was not on my options list

To be fair, I don't personally like that hair cut and if someone came to me with it and asked if it looked good, I would of course be polite but I'd probably have to sue my face for slander.

I have now read the whole thread...with interest.

I think it is pointless and completely wrong to put a label on any particular group and describe them as one group and then even imply that they will have similar characteristics! As a group they may have certain characteristics such as "white" but even that covers members of so many different countries.; so many different experiences to shape their views. Even "middle aged" is a moveable feast, when does it start, when does it end? Hairstyles ...so apparently having a certain hairstyle tells people what your views are, your characteristics!!?? How silly can it get?

That lists suggests if the three "characteristics" I mention above apply to you then you are bound to also be "entitled" and "demanding". How daft is that, why should the rest determine that you will be those things also?

Surely the fight for equal rights and opportunities and feminism can be done without labelling of anyone or any group??

Starblaze

What are the origins of this Karen thing Chewbacca?

Because I did look into it and it appears to come from white people caragorising a "type of person" who likes to complain to the management.

Its been around for a while apparently.

Now it has been attached to racism, its suddenly a massive problem

White people do this a lot huh?

Your post yesterday appears to contradict what you've said today though. And I'm still perplexed by what White people do this a lot huh? means. What do "white people^ do a lot of?

GrannyGravy13

Can I ask what is the defining hairstyle please, I have an appointment at the hairdressers on Tuesday and would like to avoid being labelled yet again (I am blonde and currently live in Essex not sure I can take anymore judgemental names)

What is that wonderful Dolly Parton quote about being a “dumb blonde” ?
Namely that she is NOT dumb (and not blonde) !

My post yesterday, before i did my best to understand and educate myself on it Chewbacca?

I have already clarified my position

Karen = Bad

Focusing on Karen to the detriment of other issues = Bad

Seperate issues

You could of course read back through all my comments to see that has been my thinking all along

I can manage to focus on both.

Now the focus seems to be on

Starblaze = bad

As if I as a woman and my thoughts are not allowed the validity of other women that everyone is so determined must be protected even if those thoughts/deeds are racist, a waste of police time, untrue or discriminatory in some way.

Also I might be a man as justification for doing so (I'm not)

lol

Me too Galaxy, me too.

No some of us are disagreeing with you thats all. I don't think that because someone has a different opinion to me they are bad.
Well unless they like Mrs Browns Boys.

Lol Galaxy, definitely agree on that

I've git no problem with disagreeing, I've learnt a lot in the last few days which I appreciate.

I don't, never have and never will think Karen is an OK term though and that's the truth.

This morning I only suggested that CAREN would be a better association than KAREN and perhaps make a negative into a positive going forward

We have laws in the UK associated with names that are a huge protection for everyone

I'm going to have to give up, I'm in the bath and I've got a curious kitten trying to sit on my chest

Starblaze

We have laws in the UK associated with names that are a huge protection for everyone

I'm going to have to give up, I'm in the bath and I've got a curious kitten trying to sit on my chest

Do we really?

What laws?

What names?

MawB, I think Starblaze is referring to the likes of:
Clare's Law; Clare Wood who was murdered by her ex-boyfriend
Sarah's Law; Sarah Payne, a child who was murdered by Roy Whiting

Of course, using the femail victim's names in this way is a positive act and demonstrates that the tragedy of their deaths has resulted in laws being passed, in their memory, that provides protection for other femails in the future.

Using "Karen" is pejorative, sexist and misogynistic and therefore not positive.

The use of a name is not negative per se , only when it is applied to a random group on no basis whatsoever other than trying to lump them together as a meaningless homogenous mass.

Galaxy

It's hardly ever a mams name, it's always a womans.

In some countries it is a male name.

The gender of the person isnt relevant really is it? The relevance is in the crime or whatever that has caused that persons name to be used.

What is the mystery "Karen" supposed to have happened to her to make her name relevant ? ?

I think it started with a comedian who labelled assertive women 'Karens'.
Women are supposed to know their place.

However, this nasty trend in America of false accusations by women against black men has been given the same label unfortunately.

I think I may have used law instead of act. Thanks for clarifying.

I do wish that I hadn’t decided to read this thread.
Must ring my daughter to apologise.

Chewbacca

*MawB*, I think Starblaze is referring to the likes of:
Clare's Law; Clare Wood who was murdered by her ex-boyfriend
Sarah's Law; Sarah Payne, a child who was murdered by Roy Whiting

Of course, using the femail victim's names in this way is a positive act and demonstrates that the tragedy of their deaths has resulted in laws being passed, in their memory, that provides protection for other femails in the future.

Using "Karen" is pejorative, sexist and misogynistic and therefore not positive.

I see what you are saying Chewbacca and to me these laws commemorate individual women and are the antithesis of the use of “Karen” as a pejorative term.
Frankly, this thread has meandered all over the place with very few people, and probably not U.K. citizens, holding to the concept of a type of woman being a “Karen”.
We have skirted around misogyny, BLM, Right wing/Left wing politics and all round the houses without actually saying very much.
I still wonder what OP’s point was in starting the thread - criticism of US politics? admiration of the same? Stirring?
Who knows?