I love the statue that has replaced the slave trader

But I can support some of the aims of BLM and not some of the others. In the same way I do with the labour party.

Oh the irony. The woman is wearing a top emblazoned with ad advert for adidas A company that hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in regards to slave labour.
It seems most of you here didn't notice it, or didn't want to.

You said if you support the organisation you support the stated aims. I am just not sure it's that clear cut.

I hear what you say.

I left the Labour Party because of its stance on Trans issues, while friends are holding their nose and sticking with them, hoping for change.

I guess it's a personal choice. But Labour's trans issues are a branch of a body whose aims I generally agree with but the body of BLM is Far Left, in my opinion, and is aimed at achieving goals beyond racial equality.



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I believe in a free and equal society. I deplore racial prejudice.

That's it.

I accept everything in BLM that says that. But I believe it is a left-wing organisation who's main aim is to bring down capitalism. This is from reading their literature.

That's fine, if that's what you want. It's just that I don't. And the trouble is (as I've found already on this thread) that you are not allowed to criticise BLM without people saying you're a racist.

Good post, and spot on!
The naive comments about BLM show that some people have no idea about it.
Nobody is saying that the statue isn’t well done, but that the only reason the sculptor did it was to get himself noticed.
It was also a deliberately provocative artwork, the raised clenched fist and the Marxist beret on her head.Did she wear a beret on the day....I bet not.It gave the statue a ‘Wolfie Smith’ look..
The sooner the people of Bristol get a voice over what goes on the plinth the better.

This matter has already been a considerable cost to the city council. That body is already millions of pounds in debt by way of a green electricity generation project they became involved with and the ever-growing cost of child and elderly care.

Therefore as Bristol has an elected Council and separately elected Mayor those bodies should be left to decide the what priority should be given to the statue issue, and what budget expenditure, if any, should be allocated to the matter.

For myself, I would much rather witness whatever resources Bristol has available being allocated to the children, elderly and the rapidly growing unemployed of the city rather than allocated an issue that Britain already has very adequate legislation to deal with in regard to such matters.

Of course, those that support BLM would never consider using Britains equality legislation to address their perceived grievances for that would be far too simple and straightforward.

But the statue doesn’t represent equality, it represents power ,

Think the statue had been removed already.

This was a beautiful statue and a real work of art, besides being a statue of a black woman both of which are people under-represented by statues in the UK.
As for Bristol council they made a big mistake just taking it down. Had they left it, with perhaps a date that it would be removed, they would have seen increased numbers of people visiting to take photos of it and local businesses might have benefitted.

I think it`s been taken down.

Anniebach

But the statue doesn’t represent equality, it represents power ,

Power for whom. An unelected very hard left grouping that refuses to use Britains already adequate legislation to address their percived greivences?

For the hundredth time, change rarely comes from legislation alone. Your faith in the law is touching but for many of us it is not the case. Perhaps if you had been a woman during the time when rape within marriage was legal you might not view legislation in such a hopeful way.

Sometimes, Grandad, I can't help feeling that you're a tory in disguise...

Grandad1943 where do you imagine the legislation that you now regard as adequate came from? Because it wasn't from the people in power who have always assumed that things were fine and nothing needed to change. It came from grassroots movements. Movements like BLM. If you want a list try the Chartists, Socialists and even the Trade Unions you now claim to believe in who were once regarded as subversives. Just because you feel empowered by the present legislation doesn't mean it serves everyone or treats them all equally.

Perhaps Grandad is a Labour member and voter who isn’t actually far left MaizieD ( there are plenty of them about!)

And the suffragettes. Most people utterly opposed what they were doing.

I would say grandad was fairly representative of the left of the labour party.

You don’t have to be a part of any particular political affiliation, to see that the sculptor wanted his name talked about.He was using the BLM issue just as much as it was using him.

Galaxy

I would say grandad was fairly representative of the left of the labour party.

Yes, the left....not the far left.

Thanks Galaxy I just thought of the suffragettes as well. They were told everything was fine as well. One Winston Churchill once said women didn't need the vote because "they are well represented by their fathers, husbands and brothers." Just as I suppose some think white people adequately represent black people.

I would say grandad was fairly representative of the left of the labour party.

I think that Grandad's post was fairly representative of many people, from across all the parties tbf.

lemongrove

Perhaps Grandad is a Labour member and voter who isn’t actually far left MaizieD ( there are plenty of them about!)

We have at present the most far left government that Britains has possessed since the labour of administration of 1945.

What other government has ever paid the wages and salaries of almost ten million workers for four months to maintain their employment.

As a left wing supporter I am over the moon and would have never believed I would witness anything like the above in my lifetime.

And from a Tory Government.
Well Done Boris, I say.

Marc Quinn doesn't need the publicity he is an established artist whose statue of Alison Lapper was in Trafalger Square.They haven't binned it by the way-they would be stupid to do so. It's worth a fortune.

Yes change is very frightening for people.

Very true Grandad43 what has been done for workers by this government has been brilliant, although from the constant armchair carping from some on forums you would think that everyone had been left to starve!